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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst2002 - 09:22am Sep 27, 2002 EST (# 4580 of 4584)

Rice: US Should Dominate Because It's 'Very Special' - http://jang.com.pk/thenews/sep2002-daily/27-09-2002/world/w2.htm

It used to be called "Uber Alles"

almarst2002 - 09:24am Sep 27, 2002 EST (# 4581 of 4584)

Spinning Media Gears For a Faraway War - http://www.fair.org/media-beat/020926.html

rshow55 - 11:05am Sep 27, 2002 EST (# 4582 of 4584) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I went to a talk by Rick Bragg last night, got his signature on my old, cherished copy of his All Over But the Shoutin' and my new copy of his Ava's Man . A lot of people stood in line a long time to get a chance to say a word to him, and get a book signed - I was one of them - and I was glad I did, and impressed at how gracious Rick Bragg was.

I gave Bragg copy of the disk rshowalt 7/19/02 9:16am described in the text of 4572 rshow55 9/26/02 5:15pm , along with a printed copy of that text. I was honored that he smiled, and didn't shun me - I'm sure he gets a lot of unsolicited stuff at book signings.

Bragg put on quite a good and moving show, and I was proud to be near him, and have him lay hands on books of mine - and he seemed like a fairly disarming "good ole' boy." I'll be emailing him a copy of this, but thought I'd post it here, as well, because I don't know how reliable my email is - - since I'm not the only person who reads it - and things seem, sometimes, to be discarded before I can read it -- so I'm leery of email as a communication channel -- in fact, I sometimes feel pretty isolated.

Anyway, the disk includes references to Bragg, and articles by Bragg, as follows:

Auxiliary_and_Summary_Files\aaSumm8062-8070Wcites\ cross1405 cross1409

Auxiliary_and_Summary_Files\NYT_MD_Articles_and_Links\ MDartsJun18_03

Auxiliary_and_Summary_Files\Putin_Briefing\ md1409_1418

Auxiliary_and_Summary_Files\Search_rshowalter\ bob047

Auxiliary_and_Summary_Files\Search_CitedInThisThread\ CitedNYTarts_05

. McVeigh Dies for Oklahoma City Blast by RICK BRAGG http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/12/national/12MCVE.html

a_md01000s\ md1409_1418

a_md5000s\ md5382

a_new_0100s\ md160n rshow55 3/3/02 4:21pm

md752n rshow55 3/22/02 8:38am , which includes RICK BRAGG Afghan and Pakistani Tribe Lives by Its Own Set of Rules http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/21/international/asia/21PASH.html

a_new_1000s\ 1150 almarst-2001 4/6/02 1:23pm especially rshow55 4/6/02 5:47pm , which ends with this:

" I asked myself who I'd want to talk to about this, if by some chance someone at the TIMES were interested. I'd be honored to talk to any NYT reporter. A name that occurs to me especially, that might not occur to others, is Rick Bragg. I have an idea that he's a hard man to lie to. "

In Bragg's readings, he gives plenty of evidence why people need to find common ground, shared space, with people as they are -- so that we can be human, warm, safe and effective. Including people who don't read the NYT:

Seems to me that Bragg, if he thought hard, might know somethin' about Huntin' for Nascar-Lovin', Moon-Pie-Eatin', Bluegrass-Listenin', Shotgun-totin' Democrats By Matt Bai http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/15/magazine/15STRATET.html .

Rick Bragg sure knows How a Story is Shaped. http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ducksoup/555/storyshape.html , and knows about finding shared space for communication. A Communication Model http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP1/TP1-17.HTML

I'll be emailing this to him, and I hope he doesn't mind my amateur quality of writing:

commondata - 11:50am Sep 27, 2002 EST (# 4583 of 4584)

I'm currently unable to see the NYTMD archives here:

rshowalt 7/19/02 9:16am

Do I need any more than patience?

And more generally I'd like to be able to take some GU and NYT threads away on a disconnected laptop. Has anybody found a good way of doing that?

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