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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 07:17pm Sep 25, 2002 EST (# 4538 of 4547)

" .... if Americans understood bombing to carry the expenses .... "

Were the concept of war made redundant, the UN declaring there to be NO SUCH THING

Exepting of course 'corrections' made by the UN to bring 'intolerable' situations to an accepted norm

A lot of international work would have to be done regarding models of leadership. Too many x-leaders/leaders have literally put their national treasurey billions into Swiss, and other international, bank accounts in their family name.

To have good leadership requires the implementation of standards. The development of trading blocks such as the EU is one method for incremental improvement.

The current situation where a country can -war- another without an international procedure needs upgrading.

The USA have war-ed their way through the twentieth century (rightly or wrongly) leaving the debris of war - that still kills - behind.

Looking at the current Iraq situation, where lots of folks are ALL FOR WAR - could the concept of war be personalised.

How about a tv channel public link-ups with families from the USA (who are all for war) with the families they are voting to obliterate.

Would the similarities of same age children, similar jobs, suburban or country lifestyles, ambitions for children, leisure activities and the like, that names are people, that people breath and dream .... wouldn't this bring home the point that there needs to be CIVIL reorganisation rather than blind warfare !?
Current technological links can enable this.

$200 billion dollars is one estimate of the cost of war with Iraq. (The clean-up will not be included - the US doesn't clean-up much post war).

Spending $200 billion

nb and money has to be GOT before it can be spent - the got bit can be hard earned

What outcomes would the USA public want to achieve as they to 'spend' $200 billion ....

Divide the number of USA-shareholders-of-USA-inc(entire population) into that figure - how much per head are they each spending? What are they getting in return? Projecting forward - do they 'like' what they see?

lchic - 07:25pm Sep 25, 2002 EST (# 4539 of 4547)

States-man Daschle gets tough on younger-Bush

"" Mr. Daschle practically shouted his disdain for those words today. "You tell those who fought in Vietnam and World War II they are not interested in the security of the American people" because they are Democrats, Daschle said. "That is outrageous. Outrageous."

Senator Daniel K. Inouye, a Democrat from Hawaii who lost an arm fighting in World War II, said, "It grieves me when my president makes statements that would divide this nation."

Several Democrats shook hands with Mr. Daschle after his speech.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/25/politics/25CND-CONG.html

lchic - 07:49pm Sep 25, 2002 EST (# 4540 of 4547)

$200 billion might help here:

"" The poverty rate exceeded 12 percent every year from 1980 to 1998. As the economy grew from 1993 to 2000, the rate plunged, to 11.3 percent from 15.1 percent, and the poverty rolls were reduced by 7.7 million people, to 31.6 million. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/25/national/25POVE.html

- back to holistic accounting-

Would it be better to produce more home-widgets for certain goods rather than blanket-import all?

Not a call to subsidise inefficient declining industry - rather - develop something NEW - the new the trend setting, the innovative, the dynamic - isn't this where future riches lie? ]

rshow55 - 10:58pm Sep 25, 2002 EST (# 4541 of 4547)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Of course nobody missed it -- but the patterns of radio detection using timing, and passive "chirpers" set out in 4533 rshow55 9/25/02 4:38pm would detect "stealth" aircraft just about as easily as the unstealthy kind. The "stealth" coatings reflect just fine from indirect angles.

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