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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 04:06pm Sep 25, 2002 EST (#
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Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
What Nash's 'Beautiful Mind' Really Accomplished By
DANIEL A. GRECH, Special to The Times http://www.latimes.com/la-032202nash.story
includes this:
"But price theory can't explain the abundant
real-world examples of market inefficiency. Nash approached
this problem by reformulating economics as a game.
"To most people, a game is a way to while
away a rainy afternoon. But to mathematicians, a game is not
simply chess or poker, but any conflict situation that
forces participants to develop a strategy to accomplish a
goal.
Nash approached the problem assuming a certain kind of
"good information" in a terribly "oversimplified" and brutal
world.
Real strategy and tactics were considerably different, and
more "sophisticated" than Nash's math - because
misinformation - psychological warfare, and deception,
were central to what was actually done.
The "game" was to terrorize and exhaust the
Communists into collapse. The objective of the people in
control of US nuclear forces, never clearly explained to the
American people, and perhaps not clearly explained to some
Presidents, was not containment, or equilibrium.
The objetive was to defeat the Communists, using
psychological warfare and terror, and survive while doing it.
When I learned what was actually being done, I thought it
was an astonishingly risky strategy. I refused to take an
assigned part which I felt was wildly risky - much too likely
to end the world.
I learned that we really were trying to defeat the
Communists, not just contain them, after I was told to claim
to have solved the key problem of ground-air and air-air
missile guidance - so that missiles would be as agile target
interceptors as birds or bats, and seldom miss.
Manned aircraft facing these missiles would be "militarily
obsolete". Some other missiles would be, too.
If the Russians thought we had that breaktrough
operational, or would have it within months, my superiors
felt, that might frighten the Communists into collapse. I
felt sure that what they were asking for was likely
to frighten too much - and lead, through patterns I'd
thought carefully about, to the end of the world.
So I refused an assignment - there was some unpleasantness
-- and I found myself assigned to Bill Casey.
I set out some of the story in reference to the movie
Casablanca , in PSYCHWAR, CASABLANCA, AND TERROR
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/0
Especially the core story part, from posting 13 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/12
to posting 23 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/22
There is a comment in #26 that I feel some may find
interesting, as well...
An illustrated script of Casablanca
http://www.edict.com.hk/movies/casablanca/casablanca1.htm
One can see more details in the links connected to Bill
Casey if you click : rshow55 ".
I spend most of my time form 1972-1986 working on problems
of optimal invention, coupled de's. mixing, combustion, and
lubrication engineering. Working to make AEA successful for me
and my investors. But I did some work on the logic of
peacemaking, too. A problem "on my list" was this:
Suppose people did want to take nukes
down? How could it be done?
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