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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 11:12am Sep 19, 2002 EST (# 4411 of 4421) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If everything has to be reduced to the absurd simplicities of "good guys" and "bad guys" - - not much can be solved or resolved.

My opinion about the morality of the Bush administration is "mainstream" - I'd believe -- about the same as the opinions Krugman expresses.

All the same - there are specific things that can be done - and should be.

And the mechanisms of discussion themselves - if they can be taken to CLOSURE can rule out some of the worst horrors, and make things possible that aren't possible now.

We need common ground - a shared space - and one piece of common ground is that we all have faults - and we've all decieved both ourselves and others, from time to time - for a lot of reasons, some more innocent than others.

A Communication Model http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP1/TP1-17.HTML

commondata - 11:40am Sep 19, 2002 EST (# 4412 of 4421)

From http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=18731

"Today, while there is much about Saudi Arabia in the US media, the ignorance is not any less. The coverage shows a disdain for the truth, for facts. So much of it is based on innuendo, half-truths, prejudice and scorn."

"The New York Times is, of course, far from impartial when it comes to the Middle East, being not merely sympathetic to Israel, but pro-Zionist to its core."

rshow55 - 11:49am Sep 19, 2002 EST (# 4413 of 4421) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=18731 is very interesting. Clearly written.

Not everybody has to be impartial about everything. Can't be expected. But facts important enough to fight to the death about are worth checking.

People can agree about some things, and not with others. I sure don't think the NYT is impartial about Israel - Safire maybe least of all.

Arab News surely isn't either.

But some key facts could be checked to closure. That might be helpful to all concerned.

rshow55 - 12:04pm Sep 19, 2002 EST (# 4414 of 4421) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If US Senators and Congressmen give Bush a "blank check" -- which he's asking for - that's disloyal to the traditions of the United States of America -- and they ought to be able to make that clear.

If other countries give Bush a "blank check" at the UN - they're being disloyal to their own interest - and to that institution, as well.

Bush has not earned unconditional trust -- any more than any other leader has.

Whether he's told as many lies as Saddam, he's told some whoppers -- perpetrated some frauds - - there's good reason to suspect that the Iraqi crisis has been set out at this time for partisan advantage.

People need to check.

bbbuck - 12:31pm Sep 19, 2002 EST (# 4415 of 4421)
Good bye Hampton Stevens - - My tagline was erroneous.

Ladies and Gentleman:

Commondata has joined the fray. Welcome commondata you have found a place where random subjects are linked with little or no commentary, and then some ranting of a political nature.
Welcome.
PS. A little contest we have here how many posts can you make before you use the words 'missle defense'.
You've got many posts to go clown.

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