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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 07:00pm Sep 4, 2002 EST (# 4183 of 4187) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

The U.S. government owes the AEA investors something around forty million dollars (the number depends on interest rates) and even if that can't be worked out, a number of things should be.

There's a lot more at stake than that.

I was assigned to solve some trillion dollar problems. And to find ways to avoid mistakes that were putting the whole world at risk.

I've solved some problems. I've kept my promises - and done difficult duty.

Whether Casey was murdered or not, whether I'm liked or not -- I should be talked to.

When "cooper" imitated G.W.Bush in 4138 wrcooper 9/2/02 8:17pm - - Almarst noticed. On the speculation that if almarst noticed, some others could have, as well - - that could be embarrassing.

This thread has many of the characteristics of pretrial discovery , 4146 rshowalt 9/3/02 7:41am

When people are watching, lies are unstable. That can be bad politics - and, of course, in the long run it is almost always against the national interest, unless we're talking very short range tactical deception against enemies. Perhaps we can get some things sorted out. Consulting with Congress about Iraq is a step in the right direction.

No Action on Iraq Until Congress Approves, Bush Says By ALISON MITCHELL and DAVID E. SANGER http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/04/international/04CND-IRAQ.html

Flag waving: 4128 rshow55 9/2/02 11:24am

There are some links right up to the oval office 4106 rshow55 9/1/02 6:16pm and they are getting stronger.

Honorable conduct is usually the sensible thing - especially when people are watching.

A rather complete record of this thread exists, has been improved since 3145-48 rshowalt 7/19/02 9:16am , and is being made available.

rshow55 - 07:02pm Sep 4, 2002 EST (# 4184 of 4187) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

4057-4059 rshow55 8/31/02 9:19am includes this:

"Casey knew very well that he was participating in decisions that were killing millions of entirely innocent people -- decisions that were degrading values that he held dear - - and yet he went ahead.

"And talked to me about it. Casey wanted better answers.

"He didn't know how to do any better than he did, given the risks he saw, the situation he was in - and the terrible stupidity and ignorance both around him and within him.

" He was stumped.

"So were the Russians.

"We can do a lot better now.

Why don't we?

. . . . . . . . .

Key things that we need to do to sort out many of the world's problems can be illustrated with respect to reading instruction. An area where we ought all to be on the same side. A field of endeavor where I expect I can continue to work in jail, if need be.

If Bill Casey were looking down, I think he'd be very proud of me. Though not of his old agency. The key things that Eisenhower warned against in his Farewell Address http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm have happened - - and we need to fix them.

Republicans should take the lead. That wouldn't be hard. Some prominant Wisconsin republicans, who were old friends and AEA investors, and who have met George Bush and some of his senior officers, know me well. With one call from the White House, a lot could be sorted out. . . . . . I'd do my very best if that happened. And I'll do the best I can, under the circumstances, if it doesn't.

Chain Breakers http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/618

wrcooper - 08:17pm Sep 4, 2002 EST (# 4185 of 4187)

Bob:

Now Patrick Gunkel is a Johnson pseudonym? Aiee!

I hope you will seek psychiatric care, Bob. I am sincerely concerned about you.

I am just a guy in Chicago, as I have always said. I was having a little fun at your expense the other day, pretending to be George Bush and George Johnson and Condoleeza Rice and all your other nemesises. It was a trifle cold-hearted, I admit, but I became tired of being accused of being this or that. I felt an urge to make fun of your paranoia. That was mean-spirited of me, and I apologize.

Look, I hope you get some help. You're suffering from delusions of grandeur and paranoia. I am sure I am not the first person to suggest that you show strong symptoms of those afflictions. I wish you best.

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