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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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lchic
- 10:20am Sep 2, 2002 EST (#
4124 of 4133)
The name 'Mandella' became the most recognised in the world
....
What did he do that seemed
'right/correct/good/advanced/approvinglyDifferent' ?
What are others failing to do?
What should they be doing that as yet they aren't doing?
wrcooper
- 10:25am Sep 2, 2002 EST (#
4125 of 4133)
Showalter:
The only document you made mention of in your "references"
was "The National Missile Defense Readiness Review," a DOD
document dated 10 August 2000. You refer to it as the "Coyle
Report." That's its hyperlink designation.
I skimmed it carefully. There is no mention in it of the
figures you presented. It gives an overall cost estimate of a
BMD system at approximately $32 billion, but nothing about the
cost of countermeasures.
Once again, I ask you, how did you come up with your
numbers? If you're suck a stickler for precision and careful
checking, you'll gladly, readily comply with my request for an
answer.
lchic
- 10:53am Sep 2, 2002 EST (#
4126 of 4133)
BMD - links - see last
The Canadian government must be convinced to say no to the
BMD system http://www.acp-cpa.ca/BMDinfosheet.htm
$ http://www.psr.org/bmd.htm
Rogues http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/01.01/krieger_bmd_AnAlternative%20Approach.html
USA PR july2002 http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itps/0702/ijpe/martin.htm
$$$$~billion~$$$$
http://www.clw.org/nmd/cochran/blank_check.html
http://www.google.com/search?q=BMD+system+billion&btnG=Google+Search&num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1
BMD system 'ineffective billion'
http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=BMD+system++ineffective+billion&btnG=Google+Search
wrcooper
- 11:03am Sep 2, 2002 EST (#
4127 of 4133)
Ichic:
I am familiar with the arguments against the development of
Bush's BMD system, and I too oppose going forward with the
system. You needn't do Google searches on keyword "ballistic
missile defense," at least for my benefit. I know how to use
search engines effectively.
Instead, why don't you encourage Showalter to do
what he insists everybody else should do, namely be
forthcoming about the sources of his claims, his information,
and his methods of analysis, so that they can be checked
independently?
Or do you have a double-standard? The rest of the world has
to act responsibly, but not Showalter?
rshow55
- 11:24am Sep 2, 2002 EST (#
4128 of 4133)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
If Cooper wants to argue "don't have to believe you - I can
dismiss you." - - - that works, to a degree. But not always.
Somebody could sue somebody. Some politician or journalist
might ask a question that couldn't be avoided. And rules could
change.
3640 rshow55
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8/11/02 2:03pm
3664 rshow55
8/12/02 10:45am
"Americans need to be WORTHY of the GOOD
THINGS people associate with this flag - - not just wave
it. . . http://www.awolbush.com/usaflag1.gif
. Our allies, and people all over the world, should be able to
expect that. And able to check that. . . . On missile defense
issues, and other issues that matter enough.
Sometimes, that means things have to be checked. Even if
somebody has to go to some effort - to work through chains of
evidence. Trials do that pretty well, fairly often. And this
thread works well as pretrial discovery.
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