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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 09:07am Sep 2, 2002 EST (#
4116 of 4117)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
This thread has many of the difficulties, and strengths, of
pretrial discovery.
I said that it seemed likely that gisterme is
Condoleeza Rice, and gave my reasons.
People could check.
It is a political season, and political professionals (many
of them lawyers, many of them with trial experience) would
know very well why Condoleeza Rice, or one of her staff, might
put out considerable efforts here. I have a great deal of
respect for the level of effort and competence that
gisterme has shown - whoever s/he is.
Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/198
written on May 12, 2001, and cited recently, reads in part:
"The New York Times - Science - MISSILE DEFENSE
thread would total about ten 1 1/2' looseleaf notebooks by
now. I summarized it, in a way you might find interesting, and
could read quickly, in 3532: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?14@193.wnetaC3RSsr^3997117@.f0ce57b/3791
, which reads in part:
""We've had outstanding contributors -- who
have furthered discussion by taking a special "stand-in"
role.
""We've had "stand-ins" who have imitated,
or tried to imitate, the thought processes of important
world figures, so that the discourse here could progress,
and simulate more important dialogs to be hoped for. We've
had extremely well written, thoughtful, and extensive
contributions with a "Bill Clinton -stand in" a
"Vladimir Putin -- stand in" , and a " Bush
Administration Sr Advisor -- stand in" . Sometimes I've
been in personal doubt whether these people have been
stand-ins, because the work of these people has been so
good. If you sample the work of these people, you may agree
with how good their work is.
. . . .
"I personally believe that correspondence between senior
people in communication with their governments is going on in
this Missile Defense thread. My opinion is only my own. The
postings are, by intention of all concerned, provisional and
deniable.
"Work on the NYT Missile Defense is ongoing, at a fast
pace, and I feel things are happening that are sometimes
wrenching, as deep disagreements are being made clear, but yet
very constructive.
" I believe that the Guardian-Observer , and The New York
Times , using the new possibilities of the internet, are
making real world progress possible. Dawn Riley and I are
trying to participate in some of that.
I've given my reasons for what I believe all along.
rshow55
- 09:35am Sep 2, 2002 EST (#
4117 of 4117)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
If Cooper wants to argue "don't have to believe you - I can
dismiss you." - - - that works, to a degree. But not always.
Somebody could sue somebody. Some politician or journalist
might ask a question that couldn't be avoided. And rules could
change.
My reasons to think Coulter posted here are set out here:
3640 rshow55
8/11/02 1:54pm ... ... 3643 rshow55
8/11/02 2:03pm 3664 rshow55
8/12/02 10:45am
"Americans need to be WORTHY of the GOOD THINGS people
associate with this flag - - not just wave it. Our allies, and
people all over the world, should be able to expect that. And
able to check that. . . . On missile defense issues, and other
issues that matter enough.
Questions for the 4th of July are worth asking
today. 2861 rshow55
7/4/02 12:06pm
Sometimes, checking is worth the trouble. Even if
somebody has to go to some effort - to work through chains of
evidence. It is trouble. Trials do that pretty well, fairly
often. And this thread works well as pretrial
discovery.
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