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"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
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rshow55
- 09:19pm Aug 22, 2002 EST (#
3911 of 3920)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
We're getting to a point where society is close to
being ready to ask for checking on things that actually
matter for our safety. It will take some courage from a
few people with status to take us over the top. Perhaps not
too many.
I'm off for tonight. I'll be working carefully to set
things out tomorrow.
People are GREAT at perceiving (and imposing) order.
If we keep at it, and are willing to DISCARD old ideas that
PROVE to be wrong -- we could all be safer, and more
prosperous, pretty soon.
Often, when we're honest and careful, the truth
emerges quickly and surely -- for all to see.
The Odds of That are often VERY good - - for basic
statistical reasons that need to be understood - - for
reasons that ought to be compelling, practically and morally.
If "common people" are routinely expected to know odds in
dice games and card games (and they are) we should be able to
teach, and expect, some broader understanding of odds that
matter for human life, efficiency, and safety, as well.
Intellectually, the job is easier than jobs already
casual and routine when we are at play.
lchic
- 09:55pm Aug 22, 2002 EST (#
3912 of 3920)
Uncommon men Uncommon women - why do some
stand out?
Science, Ethics, and Moral Status http://www.phil.vt.edu/Miller/papers/science.html
The scientific status of the labour theory of
value / Cockshot Cotterall 1977 http://www.wfu.edu/~cottrell/eea97.pdf
Are
people paid what they are worth - per unit of output -
or otherwise ... Where do Enron Directors sit
?
Or, is GJ worth his salt ... uuhhmmm ... muddle !
? Should he be paying them rather than they him ... if
muddle is used to prevent closure! :)
lchic
- 10:43pm Aug 22, 2002 EST (#
3913 of 3920)
STATUS - 'tag' questions ~ Gender
http://viadrina.euv-frankfurt-o.de/~wjournal/1_00/KUNSMANN.HTM
Conclusion We have seen that both the dominance and
the difference approaches can be employed to explain
variation in speech situations. In addition, the personality
of the individual and the vitality of the group are also
involved in the explanation of variability in language use.
There is evidence that the vitality factor in the female
subculture is increasing resulting in growing assertiveness.
Given such a process, the significance of structures such as
tag-questions and of behavioral patterns such as
interruptions will diminish for a determination of the
differentiation of men and women with respect to language
use. Gender and status rather than gender or status will be
the determinant categories. (nb 'paper above also noted
that women had better language skills overall than men)
The strategy of women using 'tag' questions has a
different explanation http://www.rridge.dircon.co.uk/choice/lit/richard.html
- search(down) 'Foucault' / tag.
Men use strategies for controlling converstion - eg
altering the topic.
Women inobtrusively insert 'tag' questions at the end of
a sentence alluding to a new topic In this way women
move from 36% chance of introducing a new topic - 72%
chance. lchic asks : So why would women stop using 'tag'
questions when they can 'get their way' through using them ?
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Raises a point regarding status - is it partly the
'bullying' of people into the believe that that their status
or contribution is less than first rate. Many instances of
this on MD board wrt Monikers/GeorgeJohnston attempting to
bully, defame and degrade the contributions of Showalter.
Noted in the Nanobes link above that Scientists who thought
they were on a roll with NEW KNOWLEDGE had this STATUS problem
hanging over them ... if their follow-through was seen as
RIGHT - huge benefits ..... but if the hunch didn't eventuate
then, rather than being congratulated for trying, they lost
status ... and hopes for funding.
The search for knowledge for knowledge's sake has almost
dried up - funding being conditional on the giver's perceived
needs. The gap in science discoveries is the failure to fund
the curious mind that wants to explore 'ideas and hunches'.
Why do ideas and hunches arise? Must be bases on something?
Showalter might say 'they've seen a pattern worth
exploring' !! He might worry that failure to interpret the
significance of patterns could be holding back the progress of
science.
Progress in science has a flow-on to all
people .... who 'pay' when denied.
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