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lchic
- 05:40pm Aug 18, 2002 EST (#
3803 of 3810)
True Stories: Fortress Australia: The Secret Bid For The
Atomic Bomb
Fortress Australia uncovers one of the most extraordinary,
untold chapters in Australia's history - the brazen attempt by
successive Australian governments to fortress the nation with
atomic weapons. Recently released top secret documents finally
allow this astonishing story to be told. They reveal a web of
intrigue, in which Australia's nuclear industry became
inextricably linked to a quest for atomic weapons technology.
Set against a backdrop of cold war paranoia and fear of
Asian aggression, Fortress Australia explores the motives of
the politicians, defence chiefs and scientists who set out to
buy, then ultimately build, a nuclear arsenal.
From uranium exploration and guided weapons research to
A-bomb tests on Australian soil, the film shows how Canberra
aided both Britain and the United States in the hope of
sharing their nuclear secrets. But it proved to be an
extraordinary double-game in which both allies and enemies
treated Australia with mistrust.
This groundbreaking film penetrates the murky world of
atomic espionage and counter-espionage. It exposes KGB
infiltration of crucial political offices, which almost
thwarted Australia's nuclear ambitions. It also brings to
light the secret role of the Australian Atomic Energy
Commission in the quest for nuclear weapons - in particular,
the ill-fated Jervis Bay Nuclear Reactor Project, which could
have enabled Australia to build as many as 30 nuclear weapons
a year.
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An upcoming program - Australia at that time would have had
a population of 8-10million - 'the bomb' had high status.
Today the anti-Nuke feeling here is high - people in general
must have felt revulsion.
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Does the USA have a system whereby papers pertaining to
it's nuclear past (still it's present) are released for public
disection?
rshow55
- 08:32pm Aug 18, 2002 EST (#
3804 of 3810)
I've been keeping faith with Bill Casey - - never thinking
he was a "nice guy." I believe that I've been doing just
exactly what Casey would have wanted me to do, in my work on
this thread. He wanted to win the Cold War - but he
needed an end game, and he knew it.
Casey was revolted by some of the things he did - and went
ahead and did them.
I believe that Patrick E. Tyler's article Officers Say
U.S. Aided Iraq in War Despite Use of Gas http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/18/international/middleeast/18CHEM.html?pagewanted=print&position=top
should be read carefully and repeatedly by
citizens and nation states, all over the world. And by news
organizations, too. It starts:
"WASHINGTON, Aug. 17 — A covert American
program during the Reagan administration provided Iraq with
critical battle planning assistance at a time when American
intelligence agencies knew that Iraqi commanders would
employ chemical weapons in waging the decisive battles of
the Iran-Iraq war, according to senior military officers
with direct knowledge of the program.
Tyler continues:
Mr. Carlucci said, "My understanding is that
what was provided" to Iraq "was general order of battle
information, not operational intelligence."
This is a narrow and misleading definition of "operational
intelligence" -- a distinction without a difference.
"I certainly have no knowledge of U.S.
participation in preparing battle and strike packages," he
said, "and doubt strongly that that occurred."
Carlucci is president of Carlisle . . . http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/05/politics/05CARL.html
"Later, he added, "I did agree that Iraq
should not lose the war, but I certainly had no
foreknowledge of their use of chemical weapons."
"Though senior officials of the Reagan
administration publicly condemned Iraq's employment of
mustard gas, sarin, VX and other poisonous agents, the
American military officers said President Reagan, Vice
President George Bush and senior national security aides
never withdrew their support for the highly classified
program in which more than 60 officers of the Defense
Intelligence Agency were secretly providing detailed
information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning for
battles, plans for airstrikes and bomb-damage assessments
for Iraq.
( 60 officers is a LOT if one is conveying INFORMATION
! )
. . . . (more)
"C.I.A. officials supported the program to
assist Iraq, though they were not involved. Separately, the
C.I.A. provided Iraq with satellite photography of the war
front.
. . . . . (more)
"The Pentagon's battle damage assessments
confirmed that Iraqi military commanders had integrated
chemical weapons throughout their arsenal and were adding
them to strike plans that American advisers either prepared
or suggested. Iran claimed that it suffered thousands of
deaths from chemical weapons.
"The American intelligence officers never
encouraged or condoned Iraq's use of chemical weapons, but
neither did they oppose it because they considered Iraq to
be struggling for its survival, people involved at the time
said in interviews. "
( How incompentent and oblivious can 60 handpicked and
trusted US officers be? )
"Another former senior D.I.A. official who
was an expert on the Iraqi military said the Reagan
administration's treatment of the issue — publicly
condemning Iraq's use of gas while privately acquiescing in
its employment on the battlefield — was an example of the
"Realpolitik" of American interests in the war.
. . . . . ( more )
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