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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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wrcooper
- 01:02pm Aug 12, 2002 EST (#3669
of 3671)
Lou:
If I am not mistaken, what you are saying is that a
workable and reliable defense against ICBMs would be
desirable. There is a non-negligible threat of an ICBM attack
from several hostile states, and, if it were possible to
neutralize such a threat, we should do so.
I agree in principle that a BMD system would be worthwhile.
However, I have a number of reservations about developing one.
I'm not referring to the chance that taxpayers will be buying
a pig in a poke. I agree with critics who say that the
technology isn't there yet. The military is overrating the
quality of the system as it currently stands. I nevertheless
agree with you that current failures don't necessarily
forecast future failures. A workable system is possible, given
enough time, money and breatkthroughs.
My reservations concern the geopolitical ramifications of
such a system. I'm afraid it would be fundamentally
destabilizing. Instead of promoting disarmament and
denuclearization of international armed forces, it could
stimulate the efforts of hostile powers to speed up or enhance
their ICBM technology to ensure its continued effectiveness as
a deterrent against the United States. If the U.S. developed a
workable BMD system, that could produce the opposite result
from what we're looking for, that is, increased safety and
peace of mind. The world could become a more dangerous place
than it is already.
What we should be doing is taking the initiative to
spearhead international disarmament. We could set a powerful
moral example if we made the first concessions. We have more
than enough warheads in stock to take such a risk, and we can
prudently maintain the capability to build new warheads in
short order. Let's put the Chinese and North Koreans on the
spot in the international court of opinion by showing the
world that we are more interested in a stable long-term peace
than they are.
Meanwhile, we should be strengthening our intelligence and
interdiction capabilities to make sure we know of any
developing threats and are able to handle them if and when
they arise.
rshow55
- 01:42pm Aug 12, 2002 EST (#3670
of 3671)
Great posting, Cooper !
You, Mazza, and I surely agree with Cooper's language
above, this far:
" a workable and reliable defense against
ICBMs would be desirable. There is a non-negligible threat
of an ICBM attack from several hostile states, and, if it
were possible to neutralize such a threat, we should do
so.
I think Mazza and I would agree about this, too - - though
with much different views of context:
" IF a missile defense program looks
fully practical on paper - - or requires technical
breakthroughs that can be reasonably expected -- then
there's a very strong argument for funding it."
I'm not sure Mazza believes that things can be checked "on
paper." I think they can be, and should be. I've got a PE
ticket -and I'm taking a very conventional view about this.
The engineers I know all agree that "on paper" checking is a
vital part of responsible engineering practice. It can't do
everything. But it can rule out a lot - and do so with
certainty for all practical purposes.
I think that the more you are in favor of programs that
HAVE A CHANCE of working -- the more reasonable it is to
abandon programs that can't possibly work - since both
financial and engineering resources are scarce -- and since
false assumptions can be so dangerous.
The MD programs that I know about -- and that people like
the Center for Defense Information seem to know about
-- the ones that have soaked up the great preponderance of the
money so far --- aren't feasible in any reasonable tactical
sense. Based on what I can find out, anyway.
I think these programs should be shot right between the
eyes. To make room for things that might be worthwhile -
in missile defense, or elsewhere.
I think there are things that CAN be done. But if they are
done, there is a real likelihood of other military
consequences. Especially this.
The breakthroughs that make MD work are very
likely to make it easy to shoot down all manned
aircraft either in our arsenal or under development -- and
would probably make it easy and cost effective to knock down
our drones, too.
An argument, I believe, for getting right answers,
expeditiously -- so that reasonable decisions, in the national
interest - get made.
A trillion dollars is a terrible amount of money to waste
-- and we're committing something like that much to military
aircraft that are going to be sitting ducks, if a few easy
looking technical advances get made.
rshow55
- 01:44pm Aug 12, 2002 EST (#3671
of 3671)
As for disarmament -- I think that ways to getting that
practically accomplished are opening up - and that
America should investigate them more carefully than it is now
doing. We should do it in ways that increase our safety
- and that we can feel confident about.
A lot of people who have, and have had, a lot of rank in
the military and the rest of the government agree with that.
A bunch of them got together and signed a petition to that
effect just before the election. It was interesting how easily
they were turned away, under current rules that don't force
checking.
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