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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 02:38am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3594 of 3606)

UK dumb-Lawyers-terrorists

" The hunt for terrorist and criminal money launderers is being undermined by the continuing refusal of some lawyers and accountants to report potentially suspicious transactions by their clients, the country's leading economic crime investigator warned yesterday.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukresponse/story/0,11017,772269,00.html

kalter.rauch - 05:16am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3595 of 3606)
Earth vs <^> <^> <^>

lchic 8/8/02 8:41am

If monikers made the man then one man would be great......

KALTER RAUCH !!!

Why, thank you...Monichic!!!

lchic - 05:28am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3596 of 3606)

Ah! Sometimes la creme de la creme spills over into your <^> <^> <^> saucers :)

lchic - 05:40am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3597 of 3606)

Iraq http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,772158,00.html

lchic - 05:55am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3598 of 3606)

Thomas Powers http://www.nybooks.com/authors/102

Powers - Co-author of
Total War
with Ruthven Tremain
- a book of quotations -
Morrow NY 1988

kalter.rauch - 06:04am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3599 of 3606)
Earth vs <^> <^> <^>

lchic......

Why is that news in Missle Defense? I mean, sure, Iraq will launch their remaining Scuds at Israel and then we'll get to witness the fruits of a decade worth of missle defense technology pressed into action......

Look, the USA isn't fighting any sort of "uphill battle to win support for an invasion of Iraq". What support does the US NEED?!?!?

Our Euro "allies" don't stand for anything, and the "moderate" arabs pay tribute to the terrorist networks.

We'll crush Iraq and hang Sodom Hussy by the thumbs over a slow fire....and then we'll pump out every drop of their oil in reparations.

lchic - 06:04am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3600 of 3606)

Powers http://www.nybooks.com/articles/15109

That assignment came to an abrupt end in March 1995 when Baer, once seen as a rising star of the DO, suddenly found himself "the subject of an accusatory process." An agent of the FBI told him he was under investigation for the crime of plotting the assassination of Saddam Hussein. The investigation was ordered by President Clinton's national security adviser, Anthony Lake, who would be nominated to run the agency two years later. The Baer investigation was only one of many reasons that the intelligence organizations resisted Lake, forcing him to withdraw his name in 1997, and clearing the way for George Tenet.

Eventually, the case against Baer was dismissed with the help of the Washington lawyer Jeffrey Smith, who served as the agency's general counsel under John Deutch. But for Baer the episode was decisive.
"When your own outfit is trying to put you in jail," he told me, "it's time to go."

Baer's was one of many resignations in recent years; the dissidents' portrait of the agency which follows comes from him, from Howard Hart, from another veteran DO operator and former chief of station in Amman, Jordan, named David Manners, and from others who preferred not to be identified. They have differing career histories and views but on some things they agree. The Clinton years, in their view, saw a crippling erosion of the agency's position in Washington. Its leadership is now timid and its staff demoralized. Top officials, they say, worry more about the vigilantes of political correctness than the hard work of collecting intelligence in the field. The shock of discovering Aldrich Ames in 1994 was followed by a period of destructive self-criticism.

...... . "Do you know how many Pashto speakers the CIA has got?" he asks, citing the language of the principal ethnic group in Afghanistan, including most of the leadership of the Taliban. "The agency will tell you some imaginary number but I am telling you none. Do you know how many were sent to learn it after the embassy bombings? None."

With the mass resignations from the DO in recent years the match between station chief and country got ever more arbitrary; one recent chief in Beijing, a dissident says, picked for the job by Deutch's executive director, Nora Slatkin, spoke no Chinese and suffered from a conspicuous skin disease which the Chinese find particularly offensive.

lchic - 06:10am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3601 of 3606)

FARMERs thrown off the land by Mulgabe will be replaced by 'Kadafi-Lybia' to whom debts are owed.

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=Mugabe+lybia+&btnG=Google+Search

kalter.rauch - 06:16am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3602 of 3606)
Earth vs <^> <^> <^>

...a conspicuous skin disease which the Chinese find particularly offensive.

Uh-huh......we find Red Chinese torture camps particularly OFFENSIVE.

We don't NEED to speak their jibber-jabber. These swine don't deserve understanding. What they NEED is a taste of their own medicine.

lchic - 06:18am Aug 10, 2002 EST (#3603 of 3606)

Oink Oink Lord Napoleon Haw Haw !

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