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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
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rshow55
- 01:41pm Jul 31, 2002 EST (#3383
of 3398)
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@193.6nAjaSEWh71.0@.ee7a163/320
almarst2002
- 03:40pm Jul 31, 2002 EST (#3384
of 3398)
China pursues arsenal of technology - http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020731-70615241.htm
"China's military has studied how the United States
conducts modern warfare and the sensors that are involved,
said Mr. Wortzel. "They are looking at blind what we call
C4ISR — command, control, communications, computers,
intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance," he said.
"They know we can't fight without that stuff, and
they're working at denying it to us."
Another candidate to the "Access of Evil" Club?
The Cold War's question "To Bomb or Not to Bomb" seems
to be relaced by the Post Cold War "When to Bomb" as a major
"foreign policy" dilemma for White House inhabitats. Hence the
infamous: "Who is not with us...". Lenin and Hitler would
perfectly agree.
rshow55
- 05:11pm Jul 31, 2002 EST (#3385
of 3398)
MD1074 rshow55
7/31/02 9:05am starts as follows:
http://www.subvertise.org/details.php?code=453
shows a very effective poster which includes this quote:
" Why of course the people don't want war
-- but after all it is the leaders of the country who
determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to
drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a
fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship . . Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you
have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country. ......... Hermann Goering ---
Nuremberg Trials.
We need to do better. One way to do better is to find ways
to see that key facts are checked.
MD1075 rshow55
4/4/02 1:20pm ... MD1076 rshow55
4/4/02 1:21pm
The checking process proposed in MD1076-76 and many times
elsewhere on this thread has been much slowed down because of
a problem of mine. One that ought to be easily solved.
Surprising how difficult it has turned out to be.
If I was free of security limitations - or
had clear limitations, and that was in writing, or
otherwise clearly checkable , then I could interact with
people in workable ways - for collaborations and business
relationships that fit real needs, in real circumstances.
It seems to me that there has been progress, but it has
been a slow, slow thing. If the government wasn't resisting,
actively and passively, it would be an easy thing. They have
some reasons to resist.
Or maybe I'm going at it wrong . . . .
mazza9
- 06:14pm Jul 31, 2002 EST (#3386
of 3398) "Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic
Commentaries
You're gong at it wrong! Quae cum ita sunt!
rshow55
- 08:31pm Jul 31, 2002 EST (#3387
of 3398)
Everybody's wrong about something, after all. I'm thinking
about ways to do better. Sometimes, I wish I could respond
more quickly - and I do try to respond pretty directly - but,
like everyone else, my resources are limited.
It seems to me that this was a reasonably straightforward
approach: 2472-2476 rshow55
6/6/02 9:23pm ... people near the masthead at the NYT
know who Mr. XXXXXX is.
I asked what seemed to me then , and still seems to me, to
be a reasonable question:
"Could things be arranged so that I could
talk to ______, or some other professional, on technical
matters, in a way so that I had reasonable confidence, and
_________ had reasonable confidence, that, whatever other
problems we might have, our conversation did not violate US
national security laws? MD2326 rshow55
5/20/02 5:43pm
In additions to the information in 2472-2476, there was
additional information sent to NYT columnists - and some other
responsible people.
I got a response - but only verbally, from a person who
also called my wife, and another person -- saying "CIA has
no interest in any of your material." How useful that
would have been if it had been in writing!
A number of connected communication channels, that I
thought ought to convey information - conveyed my need for
something in writing - not an endorsement or credentialling of
any kind, but a statement that would reduce security risks for
those who dealt with me.
Got a disappointing response to a direct, reasonable
approach.
MD3355 rshow55
7/30/02 6:28pm
There is a good deal of context that can be checked:
MD2115 rshow55
5/9/02 9:34am
And high stakes for me - high enough to make some hard work
entirely rational - both for me, and for people I care about:
MD2769 rshow55
6/29/02 7:59am
Checking facts in important, and perhaps there is room for
improvement in the way we do it: MD1622-3 rshow55
4/21/02 7:59pm
Could I be wrong about some things? Sure.
But it is surprising how difficult checking often is.
Back tomorrow.
lchic
- 12:56am Aug 1, 2002 EST (#3388
of 3398)
mAzzA says someone's going at it wrong
Wrong
for whom, whom, whom and whom? What's 'it'?
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