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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 09:52pm Jul 28, 2002 EST (#3327
of 3339)
Interesting. 22 posting just got deleted. I'll have to go
back and check what they were.
I was about to post this:
U.S. Exploring Baghdad Strike as Iraq Option By
DAVID E. SANGER and THOM SHANKER http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/29/international/29IRAQ.html
"We are looking at the three or four options
in between."
As a person who once gave a good deal of thought to
interdiction - - it seems to me that the US might consider 4-9
options "in between" -- with sub-options -- all
CLEARLY disclosed to the Iraqis.
Repeat: Clearly disclosed.
If the US military can't come up with 20-50 fully workable
plans, in short order -- they should work (for the 2-3 weeks
it ought to take) until they can do so. Then, they should
choose option sets according to a simple rule.
The military should look at options where defense
against any particular option precludes an effective defense
against any other, from the Iraqi point of view. And where
switching from option to option is quick and easy for American
forces. Details of execution should be quickly, cleanly
programmed for whatever defense option the Iraqis happen to
deploy.
In military history, the cleanest, neatest fights are not
routs. They occur when one force commits to a coordinated
effort, and can be "taken down in order."
If the Iraqi military were confronted with a situation
where they were sure that they were going to be
defeated - -- beyond reasonable question -- down in order -
the objectives of the war might be accomplished cleanly, with
absolutely minimum casualties (and minimum mess) on either
side.
Professional soldiers are brave, but not suicidal.
Our objective is not carnage, but regime change.
A negotiated change of Iraqi behavior, that
eliminated the threats that worry us, would be ideal. For all
concerned.
If the military forces of Iraq were sure that they
could not survive an attack -- defending only the desire of
Saddam to threaten mass murder -- and were also sure
that they could defend anything they could reasonably value
about their country if they negotiated -- fights might be
avoided.
(Note: IMHO, if the Bush administration had called me on
the telephone, as I asked them to do before Bin Laden slipped
through their fingers -- things would have been considerably
cleaner. I've had some very expensive training, and it seems a
waste that I'm having to work under current, cramped
circumstances. )
The United States ought to want to neutralilze
intolerable threats from Iraq (one way or another.) But it
ought to want to do that on a basis that has a
decent and stable end game.
Because it was one of the main concerns Casey had, I've
given a lot of thought to that.
rshow55
- 10:34pm Jul 28, 2002 EST (#3328
of 3339)
MD3282-86 rshowalt
7/25/02 8:13pm is well worth considering.
We have problems to fix. There are fewer postings from
wrcooper than there were recently.
I'm for accountability. But I'll be doing my accounting in
the morning.
We need to find ways to "connect the dots" so that
we can deal with key facts, that ought to have morally forcing
circumstances. The technical means are at hand - or only a
small effort input away. The stakes are very high - for
reasons Krugman has pointed out before, that he points out
again in The Private Interest By PAUL KRUGMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/26/opinion/26KRUG.html
.
We need to do better than we have done at
" the collection, connection, and
correction of the dots"
We can. For a long time, the Bush administration has
intimidated so many so thoroughly that this hasn't been
doable. But it is becoming so.
Some "unwritten rules" of journalism need to be rethought.
Sometimes "old news" and "new news" need to be combined - and
checked.
lchic
- 11:02pm Jul 28, 2002 EST (#3329
of 3339)
http://www.publiceye.org/main.htm
Were those 'people' who Cooper says don't read the board -
reading it?
Maybe Cooper pulled the post where he said he worked within
RCN in Chicago - before later admitting he uses RCN services
only! What a Whopper!
rshow55
- 11:14pm Jul 28, 2002 EST (#3330
of 3339)
SECULAR REDEMPTION http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@155.X0apa6zDeDc.0@.ee79f4e/1345
MD2599 lchic
6/17/02 1:46pm
lchic
- 11:20pm Jul 28, 2002 EST (#3331
of 3339)
The Bush musketeers haven't hit the headlines for a while -
is it recess?
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