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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshowalt
- 12:58pm Jul 23, 2002 EST (#3252
of 3327)
seantga - 06:39pm Mar 5, 2002 EST (#225 of 235) Hi there.
I'm Sean, the host for this forum. I usually take a hands-off
approach, but I'd like to remind posters that multiple posting
is not always the best way to get your point across.
Let's try to tone down the volume and let other people get
their thoughts in.
Thanks.
manjumicha2001 - MD226 manjumicha2001
3/6/02 1:02am
Sean
Please leave rshow alone. Notwithstanding our lack of
responses, we do read his postins with interest from time to
time. They are in most cases pretty important contributions to
your forum, i think.
Rshow:
You are right that "fiction" often serves as the basis for
national "vision" of the prior, current and future regimes
(whether they are despotic or not). AT the same time, however,
the fictional ideology of a regime is often sustained and
reinforced by the harsh and unavoidable realities of the
nation or people (which is host to any particular regime and
its "fictional" ideologies). They often do contront very real
and cruel threat to their existence. For example, NK's juche
ideology might be a monstrous fiction but it was born out of,
and nurtured by, 50 year-long US-led economic, political and
military embargo of that nation coupled with overt nuclear
threats to its existence. Even China and Soviets had to either
change the nature of their regimes (in case of China) or
crumble (in case of Soviet) under the weight of cold war won
by US. NK chose an opposite path, which was summed up by its
representative in Tokyo as follows: "We chose to be hungry
wolves in the wild than tamed house dogs". I do not believe
this sentiment is a "fiction" to them.
Another example might be the myth of "Zionism" for jewish
diaspora. I suspect that considering the horrors of pograms
throughout centries, a jewish person's (even if he/she was
born and raised and spent entire life in US and never visited
Israel in his while entire life) choice to "return" can't be
said to be based on a 'mythical" hope for Zion even by the
most ardent critique of Zionism as a viable national
vision....
lchic - 12:56am Mar 6, 2002 EST (#227 of 235)
ManJ - on North Korea - said:
" NK's juche ideology might be a
monstrous fiction but it was born out of, and nurtured by,
50 year-long US-led economic, political and military embargo
of that nation coupled with overt nuclear threats to its
existence.
A thought here is:
" Is there general awareness of this Fifty
Year Policy .. was it said and restated (?), or, are such
policies hidden in the shadows out of the light where the
general public have neither awareness nor opportunity to
comment or give input.
Apart from rallies and street marches when the public get
aroused and incensed .. how does JaneJoePublic have input into
foreign policy?
MD228 lchic
3/6/02 2:02am includes:
Regarding Missile Defence the big question -
. Why are 'Useless dangerous antique
nuclear weapons' not taken down ...
lchic
- 03:16pm Jul 23, 2002 EST (#3253
of 3327)
I hear it's 'hot' in Moscow. Six nuclear facilities in the
city have for 50yrs just dumped their waste at local dumps ...
now that Moscow is expanding that waste has to be found and
removed from the city limits. (worldRadio)
lchic
- 03:17pm Jul 23, 2002 EST (#3254
of 3327)
|> Bush Cartoon today's http://www.guardian.co.uk/
lchic
- 03:20pm Jul 23, 2002 EST (#3255
of 3327)
The Australian Share Market - has so far held it's own.
Fair value.
The problems start as/if the US runs into recession :
Australia ships the raw materials to Asia that Asis turns
into goods to sell to the USA.
If that demand slips .... bingo!
wrcooper
- 09:08pm Jul 23, 2002 EST (#3256
of 3327)
Showalter:
Am I a proponent or opponent of Bush's missile defense
program?
What about missile defense in general?
lchic
- 11:54pm Jul 23, 2002 EST (#3257
of 3327)
Is that Bush or FatherBush you're talking about?
Who killed these guys?
Two too Catholic?
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/24/opinion/24DOWD.html
wrcooper
- 12:38am Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3258
of 3327)
The younger Bush. The present Prez.
lchic
- 12:49am Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3259
of 3327)
Fearing independent visits to U.S. prisons and to terror
suspects on Guantanamo, the United States is planning to block
a U.N. vote on a plan to enforce an international convention
on torture, U.S. diplomats and human rights campaigners said
Tuesday.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20020723_1773.html
While the USA enjoys poking around Iraqi prisons and
chemical factories - it sure as hell won't let anyone else
take a look around its own institutions!
see Threads gu.com : Guardian-talk-News-International
""U.S. May Block U.N. Vote on torture ""
lchic
- 03:50am Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3260
of 3327)
Corporate Crime How they do it! Point by point
""Recently, a few C.E.O.'s have stepped forward to adopt
honest accounting. But most continue to spend their
shareholders' money, directly or through trade
associations, to lobby against real reform. They talk
principle, but, for most, their motive is pocketbook. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/24/opinion/24BUFF.html
lchic
- 03:58am Jul 24, 2002 EST (#3261
of 3327)
ONE MILLION LOST TO WAR 1980's
"We live in a very frightening situation today. We have
never witnessed war being so much promoted in the US."
Iran's leadership would not bow to US "threats and
insults", he said. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,762148,00.html
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