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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshowalt
- 01:03pm Jul 19, 2002 EST (#3161
of 3327)
While I'm summarizing, I'd like to point out that there's
been a great deal of discussion, some in my view well thought
out and well written, about the idea of "connecting the dots."
There were similar ideas on this thread (and a lot of other
places) - but I was impressed with the phrase "connect the
dots" used by Erica Goode. MD324 contains this:
Facts and ideas, combined together in space
and time so that people can "connect the dots" , as
Erica Goode says in Finding Answers In Secret
Plots http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/10/weekinreview/10GOOD.html
form the ideas that people and groups have. -- These ideas
are patterns, which work well enough to sustain action and
belief in some ways, though they may be totally invalid
otherwise. These ideas, constructed by "connecting the dots"
may produce grossly pathological results -- fueling hatred,
wars, and cycles of poverty. Or they may be correct.
To judge that, one checks the "facts"
"connected together" and one sees if the pattern conjured up
fits more facts - - including many more facts. The process
of judging this, like the process of putting the
"explanation" together - happens in people's minds - and
can't be forced. But the matching process -- the "connecting
of the dots" -- is what effective thinking and persuasion is
all about. . . .
Since then, the idea has been worked through, to some
degree from different angles, on this thread. This thread has
also cited the use of the phrase, and the associated ideas, by
others.
rshowalt
- 01:04pm Jul 19, 2002 EST (#3162
of 3327)
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During this time there has been something of an explosion
of usage of the idea - - and it may be in the process of
becoming the most important kind of idea a culture has -- an
idea used so often -- connected with so much -- that everybody
knows it, and associates a lot with it. Such ideas are called
"cliche's" -- and they have a status that is both "low" and
"high" -- depending on how you want to think about it.
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