New York Times on the Web Forums
Science
Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
Read Debates, a new
Web-only feature culled from Readers' Opinions, published
every Thursday.
(3123 previous messages)
rshow55
- 05:12pm Jul 17, 2002 EST (#3124
of 3327)
Mazza, lchic is, on occasion, somewhat more
emotional, more poetic, more allusive, than I'd be. And the
exchange mazza9
7/17/02 4:19pm . . . to . . . mazza9
7/17/02 4:19pm illustrates that, among other things. Maybe
lchic gets a little angry -- not everyone would blame
her. If you search "mazza" and search "lchic" - - it seems to
me that, taking an average, the lady is at the very least, as
much of a lady as you, mazza, are a gentleman.
Got a dead link for your "contact information" - but by
now, you should call me -- on a conference call, with Cooper -
and George Johnson -- to show that you are indeed distint
people. I've asked for that from time to time - - and think I
asked politely in MD3101 rshow55
7/16/02 9:11pm and MD3103 rshow55
7/16/02 9:16pm .
I've also asked Mazza (Cooper-Johnson) for response with
respect to SUBSTANCE on a number of occasions.
Responses about substance have been lacking.
The idea that my postings have been disproportionate has
been raised. Given the issues involved, I think they've been
entirely reasonable.
MD2770 rshow55
6/29/02 7:59am , involves some concerns of mine, and
some context that might clarify some of the "boxes" I've felt
myself to be in and some of the obligations I've felt . Given
the situation, I don't think my work on this board has been
"disporportionate" at all.
Just to review some things - involving Mazza.
I've been making some postings on the NYT Missile Defense
board. Floated an idea in MD2977 rshow55
7/10/02 10:29am and got a response from Mazza in MD2978.
Since Mazza often seems to me to represent administration
interests, I took his response as a request for more
information about what I'd like to debrief about - an opening
I'd been hoping for. I posted some responses in MD2979-2988 rshow55
7/10/02 1:33pm that I hoped clarified some things.
In the NYT this morning, William Safire wrote a chatty
piece "The Spook Awards" http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/opinion/11SAFI.html
that I thought might, perhaps, be a suggestion of an opening
for me. I've made some efforts to contact Safire, and let some
other NYT people know that.
I've recently posted this, http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.eece621/15
and hope it clarifies some concerns I have, and some of my
sense of proportion and priorities.
Mazza, can you point out specific mistakes I've made with
respect to Missile Defense. Citing numbers, so other people
can see?
I think I'm working in a balanced, responsible way, under
an awkward set of circumstances that produced the situation
set out in MD2770 . And I'm working hard, with some
cooperation from some informed, responsible people - to find a
more livable situation -- one where my status under national
security laws is clear, in writing or in some other usable way
-- so that I can go about my business. As any person who wants
to function has to be able to do.
rshow55
- 05:43pm Jul 17, 2002 EST (#3125
of 3327)
I'm finding proofreading hard since some "government
friend" found a way to do an ingenious thing -- knock out the
"save" and "save as" buttons on my WordPad programs - so they
lock up the computer. So I'm having to change some habits.
People are now waking up to how easy, and how serious,
manipulations can be in the relatively open, relatively
carefully checked world of corporate finance. Yet we know what
people like Thomas White, and other experts at
enronation - - can do with these relatively open
checkable means.
How much easier it is to manipulate, and
misappropriate funds -- and fund the right wing of the
Republican party - under the curtain of security
classification? How much easier is it with the patterns of
coercion that characterize the military-industrial-political
complex? Much easier. According to patterns very well
perfected, and understood, and explained, by the Nazis. The US
learned those lessons well. I studied them - because I was
assigned to do so.
The cold war should be over . There are things to
check -- that can be checked, by "connecting the dots" - and
it is important to get on with it.
The stakes, I believe, justify my best efforts. And I've
got some compelling private interests, as well. Anybody caught
me in a lie on this thread? I've said enough things, in enough
different ways, that it ought to be easy to do -- if I've been
being deceptive. There's enough background information that
the circumstances around MD2770 rshow55
6/29/02 7:59am to constrain the possible a good deal.
Enough, for example, that the AEA investors should be
paid.
Enough, also, that there are a good many things on which
our national safety and honor depends, that are connected.
(202 following messages)
New York Times on the Web Forums
Science
Missile Defense
|