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the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
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rshow55
- 08:42am Jul 15, 2002 EST (#3070
of 3085)
Carl Sagan, an old teacher and investor of mine, explained that
there were things to be expected when dealing with "forces
greater than himself."
He mentioned two cases especially. Going home to see his mother,
and testifying before Congressional Committees.
Those were times to get a haircut.
I may never again testify before a Congressional Committee, but
if I ever know I'm going to meet someone from the New York Times,
I'll get a haircut. MD1591 rshow55
4/21/02 2:08pm
Especially with a NYT columnist. Columnists are powerful,
influential, distinguished people!
William Safire wrote a chatty piece "The Spook Awards" http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/opinion/11SAFI.html
that I thought might, perhaps, be a suggestion of an opening for me.
I know I may have been mistaken. Still, it occurs to me that Safire
might be an ideal contact between me and CIA - if he were willing to
serve in that capacity - or to make contacts that would function
otherwise. It seems to me that it makes sense for me to write to
Safire - asking for a chance to call him on the phone, and seeing if
this could be pursued. If it could, it might simplify a great deal.
Safire could, if he wished, solve some problems of mine that have
blighted my life -- and very easily. For instance, if he could put
me up as a guest at the Cosmos Club for a week (I would pay all
bills) that would probably let me sort out any problem I have with
the government that I really deserved to have solved - breaking a
log-jam. Especially if I could buy him lunch once.
I'd be able to present some "credentials" to
people I met there -- in the form of a CD archiving the NYT
Missile Defense forum, from May 25, 2000 to 10 July 2002 - with
some search notes of mine. (I have such a CD now, and may be able
to improve it and update it from time to time.) Not that anybody
would want to look at such a CD, which contains the equivalent of
45 1 1/2" notebooks of text from this forum. But people could.
They could judge my own abilities by sampling, if they wished to
do so.
Safire could solve my problems in many other ways. So could any
other NYT columnist.
rshow55
- 08:42am Jul 15, 2002 EST (#3071
of 3085)
Would such a contact be inappropriate? (My calling columnists
seems fair enough -- but could someone of rank at the TIMES decently
take such a call, and respond?) Given the chasm in status between me
and people near the masthead at the NYT, it would certainly have to
be done as an exception.
The exception would have to be based on some background. Here is
some. I've been making some postings on the NYT Missile Defense
board for a long while. They have been extensive, and there are ways
to argue (indirectly, but perhaps clearly) that people have read
them. I floated an idea in MD2977 rshow55
7/10/02 10:29am and got a response from Mazza in MD2978. Mazza
often seems to represent administration interests, and I took his
response as a request for more information about what I'd like to
debrief about - an opening I'd been hoping for. I posted some
responses in MD2979-2988 rshow55
7/10/02 1:33pm that I hoped clarified some things.
I've recently posted this, http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.eece621/15
and hope it clarifies some concerns I have, that make me want to
have such contact. It speaks of priority ordering: ""I'm running
a negotiation, involving a paradigm change, and I was carefully
coached on the need for priority ordering some years ago, by a wise
bureacrat. "
I'm dealing with circumstances that are some ways awkward, for
reasons that some might understand. MD2770 rshow55
6/29/02 7:59am , deals with some concerns of mine, and some
context that might clarify some of the "boxes" I've felt myself to
be in and some of the obligations I've felt .
I'll be sending a copy of this note, and some other materials, to
William Safire this morning - with copies to the other columnists,
and a copy to a senate staffer of my acquaintance. One may argue
that doing so, with this public posting involved, is in very bad
taste. Ordinarily I'd agree, but I feel an exception is justified
here, because of the awkwardness of some of the circumstances
involved. My respect for both William Safire and the CIA is very
great - but I fear them both - for reasons that seem sensible to me.
And, on the basis of a conversation that I hope was taped, and that
I hope some NYT columnist can listen to - I'm concerned that some at
CIA may fear me. If I'm right about that, I have good reason,
without disrespect, to fear the CIA, for reasons of symmettry.
My phone number is (608) 829-3657
lchic
- 08:54am Jul 15, 2002 EST (#3072
of 3085)
My hunch is that that phone number is in the
Madison Directory - Right!
rshow55
- 09:20am Jul 15, 2002 EST (#3073
of 3085)
Yup. But you'd be amazed - in dialog -- how much the
grammar -- the ordering -- the explicitness -- determines the
decisions that are actually made.
Be fun to do a little debriefing about that , too.
- - -
For example, might point out how often newspapers "point with
alarm" at problems -- make a fuss about problems - - but in ways
that they know are going to be ineffective. So that they can
have it both ways -- be for reform, and against it, at the same
time.
The Wall Street Journal does that - - and so does the
National Enquirer ; the Washington Post ; the
Guardian Observer ; and a lot of other papers, too. Also
magazines, and other media outlets.
For a lot of good reasons. And a lot of other reasons.
But maybe for reasons that ought to be subject to exception, from
time to time, when it really is important to get some things to
closure.
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