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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 09:59pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (#
17626 of 17631) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
My involvement with the Missile Defense board started with
discussion about nuclear weapons on the old NYT Favorite
Poetry board.
http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet_6222_Sep21_2000_PoetryAbtNks.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet6229_Set22_2000_SeeNukes_DowrnInOrder.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet6237_Sep23_2000_SeeWillyNilly.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet6242_MRSnWillyNilly.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet_6250_SeeLunarchick.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet_6259_Sep24_2000_KateSaysGoToMD.htm
ends with this:
. kate_nyt - 01:27pm Sep 24, 2000 EST (#6264 of 6739)
Community Producer, NYTimes.com
Afternoon, all-
This forum is for poetry only. Please move
any discussion of nuclear weapons to the Missile Defense
forum in the Science area. It could use the help!
Have a good Sunday, Kate
My involvement with the Missile Defense thread began on a
Monday, at 07:32am Sep 25, 2000 EST (#266) Ridding the world
of nuclear weapons, this year or next year. What would have to
happen? rshowalt 9/25/00 7:32am . For the rest of that day, I
had a discussion with "becq," who I have often thought might
have been President Clinton,
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md266.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md273.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md280.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md290.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md300.htm
ending at #304, which is worth reading in itself ...
rshowalt 9/25/00 5:28pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md304.htm
I was hoping to get off this board then.
Based on things discussed in http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/MD8393.HTM
and some other things that were happening to me - it didn't
seem certain - but it also didn't seem far-fetched - that becq
might be Clinton - or somebody close to him.
Perhaps, at that time - I had a far-fetched view of how
close the NYT and the US government actually were.
That view seemed reasonable then, and it doesn't seem
far-fetched now, either.
Questions of identity on this board are matters of dispute
( thought there may be ways to get the answers ) but identity
of just one of a number of posters might cast a lot of light
on the probable identity of the others. Is it far-fetched that
gisterme and almarst may have had interesting
connections? Maybe not.
http://www.mrshowalter.net/Sequential.htm
This board may be a humble thing - but the political
implications of identifying gisterme widely might cast
a longer shadow.
almarst2003
- 10:04pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (#
17627 of 17631)
Imperialism Starts at Home - http://www.counterpunch.org/seidman11112003.html
rshow55
- 10:06pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (#
17628 of 17631) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Almarst's postings have often been distinguished.
He's had many very perceptive things to say about Iraq
- and about international relations in general.
Almarst , lchic and I have been very
concerned with problems of press function for a long time. http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2088_2089.htm
We've discussed many of the problems in terms of Weaver's
News and the Culture of Lying 5943-44 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.1IDdbB4sX91.159487@.f28e622/7390
Here's http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2088_2089.htm
, with its main links working , and other links available by
date at http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm
. . .
( If you read the links, you'll see that
back then, as now, I had plans - but that executing those
plans required working cooperation with power - which was
denied ).
Power is always essential - ideas alone can only do so much
- for reasons that Berle, and many others, have made clear.
See Berle's Laws of Power http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_new_0100s/md667n.htm
rshow55 - 04:46pm May 15, 2003 EST (# 11694 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.1IDdbB4sX91.159487@.f28e622/13304
If a nation state actually took an interest, it might then
be possible to count the deceptions and mistakes
representatives of the administration have made about missile
defense on this thread.
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