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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 10:25pm Nov 9, 2003 EST (# 17042 of 17083)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Alex-Almarst-ru, if you read the thread, was against Gisterme-USA component of the thread advocating war with Iraq. It's here in the record. The message was DON'T.

Now in Iraq it's the ru-military-simplex-value-components that are bringing down USA-helicopters.

Such is the inter-relationship of war-trade and loss-people-equipment.

lchic - 10:28pm Nov 9, 2003 EST (# 17043 of 17083)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

'real effort' - that's what lchic & Showalter have advocated.

What is meant by real effort.

It's about constructing minds to be forward looking, to have vision, to appreciate that simplex-jingoistic-gibberish isn't the shining-ligth-path

Rather it's upskilling, upgrading, educating and accepting modern values of advanced societies.

lchic - 10:37pm Nov 9, 2003 EST (# 17044 of 17083)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

WARS call on everybody - especially the on-your-doorstep literally in-your-backyard types of war.

WARS make demands on the whole population.

The human losses of war are suffered directly and almost directly by everyone in the community.

WWI took the men.

WWII took many but fewer men.

WWI left many women 'single'.

Both wars left many children without a parent.

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After the great social and economic stress of war the demands of peacetime arise.

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The UK put their bulldog back in the kennel and went for social reform and COMMON PROVISION.

The post war governments took note of basic needs on the Maslow scale.

National Assistance Act 1948

National Health Service in 1948

British Nationality Act of 1948

lchic - 10:39pm Nov 9, 2003 EST (# 17045 of 17083)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Australia - PM no longer to have 'say-so' re going to war ?!?

Moves afoot to WIDEN DISCUSSION BASE prior to plunging Australia into WARS.

It seems the matter of IRAQ was based on mis-interpretations of 'truth'

lchic - 10:45pm Nov 9, 2003 EST (# 17046 of 17083)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Defamation reform UK

http://elj.warwick.ac.uk/jilt/issue1/1news.htm

http://www.parliament.uk/

http://www.parliament.uk/glossary/glossary.cfm

lchic - 10:50pm Nov 9, 2003 EST (# 17047 of 17083)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

UK Prime Ministers http://www.ukgov.info/output/page123.asp

details http://www.genealogyinengland.com/Information/20thprimeminister.htm

bluestar23 - 11:04pm Nov 9, 2003 EST (# 17048 of 17083)

"WWI left many women 'single'"

With millions of dead all about her , this is all a woman can imagine; that it's tough to get a date....

bluestar23 - 11:08pm Nov 9, 2003 EST (# 17049 of 17083)

"WWII took many but fewer men."

No, the WWII has tens of millions more casualties than the Great War.

"Both wars left many children without a parent."

How did you figure out this breath-taking "fact"...?

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