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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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lchic
- 02:42pm Nov 6, 2003 EST (#
16638 of 16664) ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
foundation
Showalter has had concern regarding
THE COLD WAR
because it's an excuse used by government to
MOVE AWAY FROM TRUTH
GWB has a NYT Headline
Bush Casts Iraq Effort in Terms of Long Cold War Struggle
By DAVID STOUT
" ... Bush today likened the campaign to install a stable,
representative government in Iraq with the long cold war
struggle .... and said America must be committed to .... the
Middle East "for decades to come."
OPINION
What even if OIL is substituted ?
America can't put Palestine together again never mind the
whole of the Middle East.
There's a feeling abroad that the USA is run by an Isreali
lobby ....
The value of repressing the entire USA under 'cold war'
conditions would include :
An excuse to direct the media
An excuse to push the military complex
An excuse to pull commissions from that money flow
An excuse to NOT seek out truth
An excuse to dampen discussion 'in the House of ...'
An excuse to play emperor
An excuse to hold the uncharged guys in Cuba for ever
An excuse to forbid democratic discussion within the USA
An excuse to move back into the shadowland of fear
In his latest book Micheal MOORE implies a huge number of
Americans are IGNORANT wrt world affairs - Would a further
ColdWar enlighten them?
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Terrorists view the world in simplex terms .... should
resources go to leading folk world over to understand that to
maximise their deal in life they have to appreciate that ....
the world is complex and fragile
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Generalising : Americans demand explanation be reduced to a
ten word 'take' --- and yet conversely can't market world
peace effectively.
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Stout http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/06/international/middleeast/06CND-PREX.html?hp
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lchic
- 02:48pm Nov 6, 2003 EST (#
16639 of 16664) ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
foundation
Cantabb asks who i am.
If he'd looked more carefully (see below) he'd note i'm a
media consumer, invited on NYT ( by NYT in general terms )to
post Opinion.
rshow55
- 02:48pm Nov 6, 2003 EST (#
16640 of 16664) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Attribution of insanity is pretty serious - the fiction
that you people aren't closely associated with the NYT is
paper thin by now.
Bluestar asks:
Do you have any world peace and stability
issues you want made more complicated and confused than ever
before ?
Solutions have to be complicated enough to do what they
have to do. This thread has gone on a long time.
lchic
- 02:49pm Nov 6, 2003 EST (#
16641 of 16664) ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
foundation
'Start spreading the news .... I'm leaving today ... "
It's been a pleasure, a joy, and an education working on
this board with it's cast of characters including Alex,
Gisterme, Jorian, Margaret Drabble, Cantabb, Paul.J.F.,
Cooper, Broadsheets and media of the world, and 'The Poster'
incarnate in multiple monikers ... but always 'The Poster'.
MD is in many ways a MINDSET .... tried to warm up the
jello, melt away those little town views, and re-set some
thinking along the way.
I made the point to Gisterme that once local regions were
locked in wars. The Westphalia 1648 agreement gave respect to
National Boundaries a paradigm shift in it's time. There is a
need for Quality Standards to apply to those within boundaries
... giving assistance and necessary economic and political
help to those repressed in non-functional systems.
Those who hold the strings of power have to consider more
carefully how they can make the world a better, more caring,
considerate, interconnected and safer place. How to be
caringly-greedy rather than visciously so. There's a need to
learn how best to move through knowledge to wisdom; how to
make science and technology work in meaningful ways, knowing
that the measure of the world and the values of the world lie
with each individual who has value beyond the monetary.
I clicked in to the NYT through the advocacy of Phillip
Adams, Radio National ABC Australia, whose bio lists NYT, and
discovered the threads ... an interest in the memory with
respect to the linguistic led me to the NYT science thread on
the Brain ... through that board . and no doubt spotting the
World Asset that I am, - as are we all, Robert Showalter asked
me to partner him.
It has since been an honour and a privilege to work
along-side him - one of America's finest and most gifted
intellectuals - one of the greatest minds I've never met ...
'king of the hill - top of the heap'. The late Professor Steve
Kline partnered Bob for twenty five years recognising and
advocating the importance of his agenda - the ramifications of
which will as further developed, accepted and integrated be a
plus for humanity.
Showalter trust you have a copy of the thread - there's
more to MD than merely MD - post me.
Showalter's 'gonna make a brand new start of it ... If he
could make it here, he'll make it anywhere ... (with no
appologies to Frankie) ... It's up to you - New York, New York
!!
I did go on to try the Home Brand Tuna advocated by Dame
Elizabeth Murdoch ... it was fine :)
Dawn RILEY Nov 4, 2003
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