New York Times on the Web Forums
Science
Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
Read Debates, a new
Web-only feature culled from Readers' Opinions, published
every Thursday.
(16558 previous messages)
rshow55
- 07:50am Nov 5, 2003 EST (#
16559 of 16562) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
16410 <a
href="/webin/WebX?14@13.imMVb1RUVFN.1418439@.f28e622/18125">rshow55
11/3/03 8:55pm</a> includes this:
My involvement with the Missile Defense board started with
discussion about nuclear weapons on the old NYT Favorite
Poetry board. ( links) . . .
My involvement with the Missile Defense thread began on a
Monday, at 07:32am Sep 25, 2000 EST (#266) Ridding the world
of nuclear weapons, this year or next year. What would have to
happen? rshowalt 9/25/00 7:32am . For the rest of that day, I
had a discussion with "becq," . .
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md266.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md273.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md280.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md290.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md300.htm
ending at #304, which is worth reading in itself ...
rshowalt 9/25/00 5:28pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md304.htm
cantabb - 08:55pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16411 followed
with a key question, referring to my 16409 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.imMVb1RUVFN.1418439@.f28e622/18124
" I was assigned to work on exception
handling patterns that neither the formal intelligence
apparatus, nor the private sector as it was, nor the
academic community could handle - in ways that I thought
then, and still think, made sense in the overall national
interest - and in the interest of our capitalistic system,
our political system - and the academy.
You mean something nebulous and undefined !
- -
In a sense, yes, in another sense, no - and there's no
contradiction. Search keys are both "nebulous and
undefined" - the patterns used in " fishing expeditions" and
organizing principles.
Eisenhower was desperate to get some key
problems clarified and solved - he was stumped and diffuse in
some ways - and very clear in others.
I'm diffuse in some ways - and very clear in others - and
though I don't "have all the answers" I feel confident that
lchic and I have gotten some of the most
important answers that worried Eisenhower.
Jorian , it seems to me, could object and say
"But it is an OUTRAGE to do this on the New York Times'
nickel - and without giving them much choice, either."
That may be right - but at the end of the first day
I spent on the board - I asked for help that sure seemed
reasonable to me then, and still does now:
#304... rshowalt 9/25/00 5:28pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md304.htm
- - and if I'd gotten it - September 25 might have been my
only day on the board.
rshow55
- 07:55am Nov 5, 2003 EST (#
16560 of 16562) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
16410 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.imMVb1RUVFN.1418439@.f28e622/18125
14169 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.imMVb1RUVFN.1418439@.f28e622/15878
seems nice to cite, too. It includes a reference to http://www.mrshowalter.net/CommendationTo_Kolata_EichwaldandNYT.htm
- which can be called diffuse in some ways - but is
pretty specific in others.
For example - it specifically maps to some unsolved
problems in game theory that we've discussed on this board.
I think it is interesting why it is so hard for me
to get NYT people to meet with me face-to-face. Look at the
expense they are willing to go to to avoid it !
And the contortions !
cantabb
- 07:56am Nov 5, 2003 EST (#
16561 of 16562)
.
Kate_nyt:
It's done, Kate. Been done for long time. Stick your fork
in it ...
Those who wanted to 'save' this slop have already done so
and added to the CORPUS.
Why wait ? Unless NYT want to accumulate this slop
only to delete it 10 days later....
(1 following message)
New York Times on the Web Forums
Science
Missile Defense
|