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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 06:39am Nov 4, 2003 EST (#
16446 of 16449) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
No - ideas have interest - if they fit for the reader. But
without responsibility, a lot is lost. I'm thinking about
gains.
rshow55 - 12:53pm Apr 10, 2002 EST (# 1232 of 16414) http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.rPcJb1XvU06.1108138@.f28e622/1577
includes this:
"I wrote an expository poem on damped and undamped
exponential functions, a while back.
"Thought I'd post it here -- it has something to do with
"connecting the dots" - getting things done -- and how hopes
can be stopped , as well.
Chain Breakers http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/618
"Just musing -- if I put on a suit, shined my shoes, and
walked into the State Department - asking for permission to
see some people -- what do you think might happen?
"I'd like to make a pitch to the Russian Embassy, and some
other places, as well.
. . . . . .
Gisterme hadn't posted in quite some time. He posted
within fifteen minutes.
I don't know if gisterme is connected to the
government - perhaps he is a NYT writer - but he knows a lot -
and has sometimes paid attention to this thread. http://www.mrshowalter.net/Sequential.htm
It seems to me good - and not a breach of confidence - to
post excerpts from my Oct 26 letter to Sulzberger here:
"A tremendous amount of my effort on the
Missile Defense board has been to solve TECHNICAL problems
of negotiating stable outcomes to "games" and negotiations,
including those that result in wars, that involve
complexity, competition, cooperation and high emotional
stakes. These problems have been major barriers to progress
in international relations and commerce.
"The NYT editorial page often asks diplomats
to arrange things that they do not know how to do
technically. I think that if you'd authorize someone at NYT
to meet with me - we're quite close to a situation where
general and simple solutions to this class of problems can
be demonstrated and explained so that they can be solved
routinely and practically. With a model of the kind of
solution needed in general worked out - in the presence of a
record that I believe many people and organizations can and
will learn from.
"The question is how you produce a "win win"
solution under circumstances where negative sum outcomes are
also possible, and instabilities are a problem. Currently,
such circumstances result in stasis, unnecessary losses, and
wars.
" . . . . The thread embodies the hard work
and hopes of many NYT people. I hope to do everything I can
to make the interaction between me and the TIMES a positive
sum game.
"I'm hoping that the Missile Defense thread
- after a meeting and an exchange of short letters, will
clearly demonstrate how to solve the TECHNICAL problems of
negotiating stable outcomes to complex games involving both
competition and cooperation. In a case big enough to study,
but not too big. With real stakes, but not stakes too high
to permit intelligent function of intelligent people.
"I believe that the work done on the Missile
Defense board, which has plainly been an expense to The New
York Times, should be a credit to The New York Times, not a
source of problems. An investment of time and good faith
worthwhile for the Times in terms of both status and money
for the Times.
New York Times people may never meet face to face with me -
and maybe never should, though I'd like to. But since that
time, I think that the NYT has handled the situations involved
with this thread very well. I think the hopes quoted above are
reasonable hopes from where we stand - and that they
can be served in ways that make business sense for the
NYT. If government people with the connections gisterme
seems to have wanted that to happen - it could, after a phone
call or two. The support, it seems to me, should come from a
foundation, or from business interests willing to associate
themselves with the eff
rshow55
- 06:42am Nov 4, 2003 EST (#
16447 of 16449) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
The support, it seems to me, should come from a foundation,
or from business interests willing to associate themselves
with the effort. Even the TIMES, big as it is - can't do
everything that is in the public interest - and connected to
journalism - without more "diplomacy and alliance
making" than it currently employs.
"Connecting the dots" is important - and this thread
has illustrated a good deal about the technique. It is not
day-to-day journalism - though it can increase the
value of day-to-day journalism.
There's both a commercial and a journalistic challenge
there - and if it involves new headaches - it involves new and
reasonable hopes, too. Big ones.
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