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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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bluestar23 - 07:18pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16395 of 16408)

Your plaything is gone lchic...time to go elsewhere...

bluestar23 - 07:20pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16396 of 16408)

Showalter:

Where are you going to go to connect the dots now? a new Forum?

bluestar23 - 07:23pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16397 of 16408)

rshow:

"I'd been hoping for that decision (to shut the Forum) weeks ago."

why did you hope for this...?

bluestar23 - 07:27pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16398 of 16408)

rshow55:

"NO FAIR connecting those dots in interconnected ways -"

But, rshow, who would ever try to connect those dots in UNCONNECTED Ways to begin with...? Connecting dots in "interconnected ways" is redundant and confusing wording...

rshow55 - 07:27pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16399 of 16408)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

There's quite a lot of material organized at

http://www.mrshowalter.net/

- and I've been hoping to organize a Disciplined Beauty parnership http://www.mrshowalter.net/DBeauty.html modelled on AEA - but with better abilities to explain things. Because I've been hoping to actually get Robert Showalter problems solved - and sold -with explanations by lchic .

I think the corpus of this forum can be very useful - and as for threads - on the Guardian there are good ones - and key ones are archived at http://www.mrshowalter.net/

bluestar23 - 07:47pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16400 of 16408)

But Showalter...you haven't explained any of the questions I asked you...?

bluestar23 - 07:50pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16401 of 16408)

Showalter:

Why did you say you wanted the thread discontinued..?

rshow55 - 07:54pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (# 16402 of 16408)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I'm deeply grateful for the chance I was given to post on this thread - starting on September 25, 2000 http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md266.htm - which included this:

Human actions work best according to the following pattern:

"Get scared .... take a good look ..... get organized ..... fix it .... recount so all concerned are "reading from the same page ...... go on to other things."

If we get scared - but stay careful - we can sort out a lot.

On the first posting of this year I set out this:

I think this is a year where some lessons are going to have to be learned about stability and function of international systems, in terms of basic requirements of order , symmetry , and harmony - at the levels that make sense - and learned clearly and explicitly enough to produce systems that have these properties by design, not by chance.

"The lessons are fairly easy, I believe, though not difficult to screw up. A problem is that perfect stability - and complete instability - are mirror images - and issues of balance and correct signs can be, in a plain sense, matters of life and death. And cost. For individuals, and whole systems.

If we look carefully - and have sense enough to be reasonably scared - but still in control - we can sort out a lot.

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