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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
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lchic
- 07:16pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (#
16393 of 16396) ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
foundation
Will the echoing Cantabbulator be shut down .... or
marketed as a desktop executive toy for the man who has
everything ... ?
Is the moon cheese? Will it turn blue ... green?
rshow55
- 07:18pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (#
16394 of 16396) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Bluestar23 asks: "Do you think this harms your body of
work or not?"
I'd been hoping for that decision weeks ago.
rshow55 - 06:36am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14706 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.lLx1bEq0USj.1049147@.f28e622/16417
About 24 hours ago: 14617 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.lLx1bEq0USj.1049147@.f28e622/16328
About two days ago: 14507-9 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.lLx1bEq0USj.1049147@.f28e622/16217
Leaks and the Courts: There's Law, but Little Order
By ADAM LIPTAK http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/05/weekinreview/05LIPT.html
. . . . "Reporters ordered to reveal their
sources almost never do, on the theory that they and their
colleagues would have little chance of persuading other
sources to trust them if they did. They generally prefer to
be held in contempt of court. Reporters have spent time in
jail and publishers have paid substantial fines as a
consequence.
What if the issue is an unwillingness of reporters and
corporate officers to reveal who they are? And a
willingness of reporters to use the implicit presumption of
their connections - without taking responsibility for them
?
Suggestion: "Crypto" . . "Watergate" and
"Byrd" are interesting searches.
People have to do some switching.
. Ecclesiastes 3: 1-13 - condensed
and set to music by the Byrds as Turn, Turn, Turn http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~harel/cgi/page/htmlit?Turn_Turn_Turn.html
A problem I'm having, guys, is that it is hard to summarize
while fencing - and especially so while laughing . . .
Some things are only so funny. Though from a certain
perspective - a lot of things are.
What, Me Worry About Insults? http://www.mrshowalter.net/What,%20Me%20Worry%20About%20Insults.htm
We are sociotechnical beings - and as such we have a lot to
hope for - and a lot to fear - from changes in ordering. http://www.mrshowalter.net/Kline_ExtFactors.htm
A lot has happened since I sent this postcard - and it is
interesting - and "funny" from a number of perspectives. http://www.mrshowalter.net/LtToSenateStffrWSulzbergerNoteXd.html
People may be muddled - and I may be more muddled than
many. It takes people a while - but we can get useful results
- and break "codes" and "mysteries".
We're now at a point where - for people in power to keep
that from happening - they have to say:
. NO FAIR connecting those dots in
interconnected ways - and keeping at it enough for focus
!
The nature of that fight - which is an essential fight in
our time - is getting clearer. The fight is being clarified,
and fought, on this thread.
If all this text was reorganized for a purpose
carefully enough - often enough - a lot of it, I believe -
would look very good. For instance, the "collected works of
Fredmoore." and the collected works of Lchic , too.
It is a long time since Watergate:
Assessing Watergate 30 Years Later By RICHARD REEVES
"President Richard Nixon would have loved
the coverage of the 30th anniversary of the Watergate
break-in last week. The scandal that drove him from office
has been pretty much reduced to a little guessing game about
who did or didn't whisper in the ear of a young Washing- ton
Post reporter that there were some bad things going on in
the White House. Who was Deep Throat? Who cares? The press
cares, that's who. http://www.mrshowalter.net/Assessing%20Watergate%2030%20Years%20Later.htm
In the intervening time - things have gotten more
complicated - and uncorrected problems of irresponsible power
have gotten more serious.
With new tools for "connecting the dots" - a lot more
can be sorted out than was possible before.
Irresponsible power - including irresponsible power of the
press - is vulnerable in new ways.
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bluestar23
- 07:18pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (#
16395 of 16396)
Your plaything is gone lchic...time to go elsewhere...
bluestar23
- 07:20pm Nov 3, 2003 EST (#
16396 of 16396)
Showalter:
Where are you going to go to connect the dots now? a new
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