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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 04:50pm Oct 30, 2003 EST (#
15976 of 15983) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
jorian http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.bc20bm2LTbH.128772@.f28e622/17689
asks about consistency.
Yes - and consistent with many other things, as well.
And there are a lot of things inconsistent with that
rationale for non-response.
And "non-response" isn't quite fair. If you set this board
aside, responses have looked pretty reasonable, and not badly
paced, either. I wrote "the big boss" a not-too-long letter -
sent it Sunday. He read it, and had his secretary call me and
say so, which I appreciated. He routed it in an entirely
reasonable way - got a useful letter from a senior line guy -
(and the right guy, on the org chart, to talk to me) - have a
couple of calls in to him - not yet returned.
With a meeting - I think things could, and should, work out
just fine - and be a good illustration of what "win-win"
solutions look like - and what they take.
I am not asking the NYT to vouch for anything they
don't reasonably know - and I'm looking for ways I can meet my
needs without stepping on NYT needs. To get that worked
through - there would have to be some talking. With people
able to see each other's responses - and zero in on
comfortable solutions.
bluestar23
- 04:57pm Oct 30, 2003 EST (#
15977 of 15983)
Showalter:
"Wars of attrition happen when people have "positions"
that, one way or another, they can't or won't ( or dare not )
concede."
I am a military historian, Showalter, and reading this
nonsense of yours just shows you have no knowledge of the
subject whatsoever....
rshow55
- 04:58pm Oct 30, 2003 EST (#
15978 of 15983) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
I think there's enough to this thread that I should be
talked to.
But then, others disagree with some things I've said
without any justification at all except for the thread
itself.
I believe that this thread is now, and has been for a
while, the largest interconnected corpus devoted to
negotiation practices in the world - or at least one of very
few. It includes some probably distinguished, if
anonymous, posters. http://www.mrshowalter.net/Sequential.htm
I'm hopeful that the work it represents will be worthwhile
- in the public interest, and from the viewpoint of The New
York Times
I've done a great deal of work on this thread, with
lchic , since Sept 25, 2000 - some summarized from
9003-9 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.bc20bm2LTbH.128772@.f28e622/10529
The part of this thread prior to March 1, 2002 is archived
- and available at http://www.mrshowalter.net/
by number or date http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm
I think readers may be interested in http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8298.htm
, which summarizes practical problems as they appeared ten
days before 9/11
At that time, I thought a great deal had been accomplished,
and more could be. There was so much effort - on this thread
and elsewhere, that hope seemed reasonable, along with plenty
of concern.
The world changed with on 9/11/2000. Here's the Front
Page of NYT on the Web - September 12, 2001 - http://www.mrshowalter.net/NYTWebFrontPage_9_11_02.htm
This thread was set up about Missile Defense - but it has
evolved to involve more, with plenty of assistance from the
NYT. This thread has been based on the "fiction" that staffed
organizations were looking at it - something I've often said,
something the NYT has operationally accomodated - sometimes in
ways that took "going the extra mile" - and has prototyped
patterns that staffed organizations could use. Sometimes I've
hoped some staffs have looked at it.
I'd like a situation where the effort works well, and it
is something we can all be proud of.
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