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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 07:08pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (# 15842 of 15884)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

About 500 posts ago, there's some interesting text - especially a suggestion from Jorian319 that few people would be capable of - 15357 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.w0hdbzorSVJ.5539374@.f28e622/17070

it would take a certain kind of background - power long held - to express a thought like that.

15359 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.w0hdbzorSVJ.5539374@.f28e622/17072

15362 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.w0hdbzorSVJ.5539374@.f28e622/17075

On my first posting this year, I wrote this: 7177 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.w0hdbzorSVJ.5539374@.f28e622/8700

I think this is a year where some lessons are going to have to be learned about stability and function of international systems, in terms of basic requirements of order , symmetry , and harmony - at the levels that make sense - and learned clearly and explicitly enough to produce systems that have these properties by design, not by chance.

The lessons are fairly easy, I believe, though not difficult to screw up. A problem is that perfect stability - and complete instability - are mirror images - and issues of balance and correct signs can be, in a plain sense, matters of life and death...

I've had enough for tonight.

fredmoore - 07:17pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (# 15843 of 15884)

This forum has all the elements of world political tensions:

Aristocratic bumbling

Imperialistic ignorance

technocratic jingoism

free thinking liberalism

and yes even the odd bit of terrorism (If I can find an anonymous phonebooth I'll give you a piece of my mind you won't forget)

Would it be any surprise therefore that EVERY post on this board has its place in the scheme of things and ultimately in the solution to the problem of how best to defend the US and its allies from Missiles of all shapes and sizes.

God bless free speech, God bless this Forum and God bless America.

rshow55 - 07:44pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (# 15844 of 15884)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Eisenhower was very concerned about patterns he'd seen, and warned against the military-industrial(political) complex in his FAREWELL ADDRESS of January 17, 1961 http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm Everything Eisenhower was worried about in that adress has happened.

Stability concerns that worried the hell out of him are still concerns.

People with power are going to have to ask that some key things be checked.

From where we are, it shouldn't be hard, and God knows, given a chance - I'd do everything I could to make it easy - and graceful - if I could. I'd like that chance.

As fredmoore says, "God bless free speech, God bless this Forum and God bless America."

cantabb - 08:11pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (# 15845 of 15884)

fredmoore - 06:50pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (# 15839 of 15844)

Off with his REveramond head ... now where's me nitting?

Is this supposed to make any sense ? I mean outside the veld ?

fredmoore - 07:17pm Oct 28, 2003 EST (# 15843 of 15844)

This forum has all the elements of world political tensions: Aristocratic bumbling Imperialistic ignorance technocratic jingoism free thinking liberalism and yes even the odd bit of terrorism (If I can find an anonymous phonebooth I'll give you a piece of my mind you won't forget)

Would it be any surprise therefore that EVERY post on this board has its place in the scheme of things and ultimately in the solution to the problem of how best to defend the US and its allies from Missiles of all shapes and sizes. God bless free speech, God bless this Forum and God bless America.

More of the same incoherence !

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