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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:07pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15534 of 15546)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

A long while ago - Carl Sagan - of "billions and billions" fame - invested in my project. ( He asked to do so. )

I asked if I could use his name. He said yes - but only if it was done with discretion. And we talked about what discretion was.

( I think he'd agree that I honored the agreement. )

We could talk about uses of the letter in the same way. And agree to something in writing. But for administrative purposes I have to be able to function.

rshow55 - 08:13pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15535 of 15546)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

It was only $ 5000 dollars - but goddammit - I think the U.S. government owes his widow some money. And owes some other AEA investors, too.

The case on what they owe me is more questionable - though I still think it is solid. The AEA investors were absolutely innocent bystanders - and were ideal investors - by the highest standards of good faith the capitalistic system ever expects.

That's not the NYT's problem. But I'd like a settlement that gives me a reasonable chance of pursuing that matter. At least a settlement that doesn't block me from reasonably trying to do so.

bluestar23 - 08:13pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15536 of 15546)

rshow55:

"If the NYT fights from here - without at least trying to work out a win-win game - it will be shameful - and a blot on the New York Times brand."

Since he thinks we're all from the NYT, and since baiting rshow55 probably won't stop, it looks like Showalter can look forward to his "shameful...blot" on the poor old NYT "brand"....

rshow55 - 08:16pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15537 of 15546)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Bluestar - I have no idea whether you're a NYT employee - I've been guessing that you're not. But manjumicha and fredmoore and bbbuck and some others - well, I've been guessing that they had close NYT connections. And jorian319 , as well.

rshow55 - 08:18pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15538 of 15546)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If the NYT doesn't know which posters are which - it could find out - or at the very least, make a good faith effort to find out - in a way it could explain.

lchic - 08:20pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15539 of 15546)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Is the 'core mission statement' the same, or different to, that of the Guardian?

The Guardian is owned by 'the Scott's Trust' ... it declares a mission with commercial purpose

  • The Scott Trust own The Guardian Media Group plc. It is a board of 10 members who are chosen from areas of the media industry that reflect GMG’s business interests. Its main aim is to ensure the commercial success of the Group and to uphold the Trust’s values.

  • John Scott wished to secure the continuity and editorial independence of the Manchester Guardian in the way that his father had shaped it. To do so, in a remarkable act of public benefaction, he voluntarily divested himself and his family of holdings worth over £1 million at that time. The setting up of the Trust resulted in a unique form of press ownership and control in Britain which has now lasted for nearly 70 years.

  • Editorial freedom is seen as residing in the actions and decisions of an autonomous individual responsible for the general line of the paper, without being subject to any proprietorial preferences.

    see 'our responsibilites' here http://www.gmgplc.co.uk/gmgplc/scott/edappoint/

    A comparative analysis of the two broadsheets would be interesting - how free is each to search out truth - how will historians looking back at coverage of a common issue quantify success?

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