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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 05:05pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (#
15491 of 15511) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
jorian319 - 04:41pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (# 15485
. . .
the TIMES seems to have gotten almarst lined
up for me to talk to
Uh... no. It doesn't seem so.
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Look for yourself. It seems so to me - see 827,828,829 -
for some context of posting before 827-829, see 9003-9011 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.R0XZbQmbQbG.4318884@.f28e622/10530
:
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md826_828b.htm
armel7 - 03:04pm Mar 4, 2001 EST (#827 of 828)
Science/Health Forums Host
rshowalter, I admire your prolific posts, but you might
want to take a breather until we get some fresh blood in
here... You rhost, Michael Scott Armel
rshowalter - 03:22pm Mar 4, 2001 EST (#828 of 828)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Yes sir !
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md829_833.htm
almarstel2001 - 12:17am Mar 5, 2001 EST (#829 of
836)
As I see it, the US military wants the NMD out of
frustration and fear to face the situation, when its
tremendous adwantage in power will be useless against anyone
who posesses even a single nuclear missle capable to reach the
US and who may be ready to commit suiside in case of
aggression. Practically that would mean the end of American's
ability to dictate and rule by force. Imagine - no more
bombings of Iraq, libia, Serbia! For the country which spends
about 300 bi/year - 30% of its budget on military, more then
10 next military spenders combined, this is a real nightmere.
"Unfortunatly", that is going to be a reality, sooner or
later. The more US will push for world's domination - the
sooner. And no NMD will save it for at least the following two
reasons:
1 - No NMD will ever quarantee 100% success, which will the
"domination" wars too risky for US.
2 - The offensive means, capable to overcome the defence,
are usually much less expensive and simpler to produce.
However, the current state of affairs already caused
tremendous damage to US bu showing its willingness to ignore
its pledges and signed laws.
Who would trust the dishonest arrogant and brutal
superpower bully run amok?
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There's been a lot of discusion since.
MD1999 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.R0XZbQmbQbG.4318884@.f28e622/2484
For contributions from "stand-ins" who have taken the role
of senior Russian and American officials - - a role that has
continued since March 1, 2000 - see 207 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/218
rshow55
- 05:22pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (#
15492 of 15511) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Somebody might be interested in a Cast of Characters
for this thread - not including Cantabb - http://www.mrshowalter.net/Cantabb_Srch_toOct_10.htm
Cast of Characters: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.R0XZbQmbQbG.4318884@.f28e622/14978
138-9 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.597a9376/138
If some who make references indicating that they are NYT
staffers actually are - questions of abuse of power make sense
to consider.
" What did he know, and when did he know
it?"
and
" What did he say, and when did he say
it?
are good questions - that apply to me, to Nixon, and to
other people as well.
Assessing Watergate 30 Years Later By RICHARD REEVES
http://www.mrshowalter.net/Assessing%20Watergate%2030%20Years%20Later.htm
Suggestion: "News and the culture of lying" is an
interesting search - that links to a lot of discussions, going
way back - that become particularly interesting if any of
several posters on this thread are NYT reporters or corporate
officers.
jorian319 - 15377 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.R0XZbQmbQbG.4318884@.f28e622/17090
. . .
I'm looking for a reasonable way that I can leave this
thread without having been mangled. . . .
I don't think it's reasonable for you to be mangled. Only
you know why you say what you say. You can bow out gracefully
at your own whim.
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Some postings don't make it so easy to "bow out gracefully
at my own whim."
Since well before http://www.mrshowalter.net/PutinBriefing.html
I've been in a situation where it has been very hard for me to
leave this thread - and it would have been for anyone in my
position. The Times as an organization surely knew that.
I'd like a humanly workable, practically
workable way to "bow out gracefully."
If I were an "average stockholder of the NYT" - concerned
about the brand - I'd like that, too.
lchic
- 05:39pm Oct 23, 2003 EST (#
15493 of 15511) ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
foundation
Nash-complex ... it's right to assume that Nash's work is
complex ... that's why he won the Nobel ...
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