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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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fredmoore
- 10:35am Oct 15, 2003 EST (#
15091 of 15096)
Gisterme,
Of course the French have an interesting slant on
dotvolution and Missledot Defence:
Liverdot, Pratternidot, Egaulledot!
(Dot Chirac)
lchic
- 10:39am Oct 15, 2003 EST (#
15092 of 15096) TRUTH outs ultimately : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
foundation
What is the Hutton Enquiry about in the UK?
A man died.
A man who was told in a 46 second phone call, that after a
lifetime's service with his government he no longer had work.
This man had publically been declared as low ranking -
inconsequential - by his government.
His failing .... he sort 'truth'.
Kelly had merged the identity of himself - with his job.
The sympathy of the British people isn't with Blair --- far
from it. The sympath concerns the loss of a consciencous
working man ... after rough treatment from a mean government
.... that's the way the regular Brit sees it .... especially
when their government (Blair) have been seen to be telling
'whoppers' wrt WMD.
The findings of the Hutton report - Jan2004, will make
interesting reading .... they may emphasise that PEOPLE DO
MATTER and should be treated respectfully.
_________________
lchic
- 11:03am Oct 15, 2003 EST (#
15093 of 15096) TRUTH outs ultimately : TRUTH has
to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong
foundation
Way into Thursday ...
OUT!
wrcooper
- 11:25am Oct 15, 2003 EST (#
15094 of 15096)
In re: <a
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10/15/03 5:54am</a>
<a
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10/15/03 5:56am</a>
gisterme:
You wrote, et. Seq.:
It is a developmental system. Technical
failures are the way that you learn to achieve technical
success.
This is hardly a convincing reason to field a system whose
components have not been proven in tests. Would you have
supported fielding the Space Shuttle before all its working
elements had been vetted thoroughly in lab trials or field
studies? The situation with Bush’s NMD program is actually
worse than this, because what tests have been performed have
largely discredited it. This is not the way to run a railroad,
not to mention national security. Furthermore, the threat from
ICBMs is currently nonexistent and could be met, in the
future, more effectively and economically by using other
means.
Budget overruns may or may not happen but if
they do, I'd have to seriously weigh those costs against the
savings in both human and fiscal terms of preventing the
nuking of a city.
This argument is a red herring, in my opinion. Naturally,
no rational person would quarrel with spending whatever it
took to prevent the nuking of one of our cities. But the
choice before the nation is not between spending whatever it
took to make Bush’s NMD program work and the annihilation of
New York City or Washington, D.C. or Los Angeles. If that were
true, there would be no controversy. The real choice, however,
is among a number of alternatives that offer to achieve the
goal of minimizing the real risks of such a cataclysmic event.
Given the current and foreseeable risks, Bush’s NMD program is
the least likely to protect our cities. Better intelligence
gathering, radiation monitoring of vessels and aircraft
entering our territory, more astute diplomatic and economic
maneuvering, and the fielding of a rapid-response interdiction
force—these address the real threats. An untried, over-costly
and technological dubious missile defense system is definitely
not the way the national should proceed.
Then we'd better get to work!
As I said in earlier posts, I support a limited R&D
program to explore our options. Technological breakthroughs
may make a missile defense system more credible. But a rush to
deploy an unworkable system is folly.
Where did you find this article?
This is a NYT editorial published on October 3.
I think their odds are very good. This isn't
a new program.
Why do you think their odds are good of building a
successful system? The evidence so far contradicts you.
Furthermore, none of the military’s public announcements has
adequately addressed the issue of countermeasures. How will
the interceptors distinguish between decoys and actual
warheads? This is the real show stopper, and the military
hasn’t found an answer. In an arms race between offensive and
defensive missiles, the attacker will win, because
countermeasures are far easier and cheaper to deploy than
sophisticated interceptors.
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