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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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wrcooper
- 11:51am Oct 14, 2003 EST (#
14981 of 14988)
In re: http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.uicsbaqOOYn.2469232@.f28e622/16687
klsanford0
First, I'm glad your sabattical from the forum lasted less
than 24 hours. I was beginning to think I would be the only
participant discussing BMD. Welcome back!
You wrote:
I believe my posts last night successfully
argued the underlying rationale for MD with regard to the
previous MAD Doctrine. Time to move on and discuss current
systems architecture.
What we agree upon is that a reliable missile defense
system would indeed be morally justifiable. However, what the
Bush NMD system threatens to inaugurate is another arms race
involving offensive versus defensive weapons. Our adversaries
will no doubt either add to their arsenals or else invest h
eavily in technology to defeat our countermeasures. There is
no defensive system on the horizon that will achieve the level
of security that warrants the investment or the risk.
It is not time to "move on and discuss systems
architecture." No case has been made that any system under
development by the Bush administration is capable of defending
us, even in a minimal fashion.
MAD was a policy adopted during the Cold War to deter
pre-emptive agression by either of the superpowers. The NMD
that the Bush administration wants to deploy is not a
replacement for MAD, because the threat it allegedly guards
against is not a massive pre-emptive first strike by a
superpower, but rather a limited launch of one or a small
handful of missiles by a rogue nation, a terrorist group, or
an accidental launch by a nuclear power, such as Russia. MAD
was aimed at a supposedly "rational" enemy who feared
retributive annihilation. None of the threats addressed by the
NMD program, would be forestalled by a fear of a massive
counterstrike. In any case, a rogue nation would be foolish to
use an ICBM, supposing they could build one or steal one, to
deliver a nuclear warhead to the US homeland. They'd use
low-tech methods of delivery that were less traceable, such as
a container ship or a backpack.
The argument that we should go ahead and build a missile
defense system has not been made--not by a long shot (pun
intended).
jorian319
- 12:00pm Oct 14, 2003 EST (#
14982 of 14988) "Statements on frequently important
subjects are interesting." -rshow55
Gisterme has worked hard on this board -
Uh...NO. He has told you numerous times. Now repeat after
me:
En
Ter
Tain
Ment
Today gisterme asked what it was that I'd
been trying to accomplish on the board
And the day before that cantabb asked the same thing, and
earlier I asked the same thing. And even earlier Coop asked
the same thing.
And you still haven't answered. WHY?
jorian319
- 12:15pm Oct 14, 2003 EST (#
14983 of 14988) "Statements on frequently important
subjects are interesting." -rshow55
I have been involved with several successful business
start-ups. One of the most critical and important things from
the get-go is to develop, express and maintain awareness of a
short, concisely worded, meaningful, and applicable mission
statement. Without it, there is no focus, no common goal,
no measure of success, and there may be a problem with the
corporate charter itself.
It would be interesting to see if anyone here could muster
a sentence or short paragraph that would accurately express
their "mission" in participating in this forum. I think
gisterme has said it well for himself with one word -
entertainment. I think Will could likely state his purpose in
short form. As for the rest - I doubt it. But it would be
interesting to see.
In particular, I think it behooves he who makes claims of
progress or effective work (that would be YOU, rshow55), to
hold those claims up to the standard of a pre-existing
statement of purpose. In the absence of any standard, claims
of progress or effectiveness are simple ego-stroking
exercises.
To avoid a continued appearance of purposelessness and/or
self service, I strongly urge Robert to tackle the most
important and urgent question facing him and his ongoing
"work" in this forum -
WTF DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING???!!!
bluestar23
- 12:31pm Oct 14, 2003 EST (#
14984 of 14988)
WRCooper to klsanford0:
"I'm glad your sabattical from the forum lasted less than
24 hours."
You can never tell when some posters appear and disappear,
can one....?
I am also interested in the MD....
bluestar23
- 12:42pm Oct 14, 2003 EST (#
14985 of 14988)
My Mission Statement: Entertainment....conversational
jousting is fun.
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