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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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cantabb
- 11:18am Oct 14, 2003 EST (#
14978 of 14988)
klsanford0: This Forum can always use fresh thoughts, fresh
ideas, new posters.
More of the same from the 'regulars' is not progress.
fredmoore
- 11:38am Oct 14, 2003 EST (#
14979 of 14988)
fredmoore - 10:47am Oct 14, 2003 EST (# 14973 of 14973)
Cantabb: A Picayune & a Sore LOSER!
KAEP: 1. A 10 year plan
2. With countries providing funds on a percentage of GDP
basis ... up to .5% by mutual agreement.
3. For an international research and implementation program
for: A. Converting one major power station in every city over
5 million people to dry rock geothermal. B. Developing and
implementing Thermoelectric fabrics (eg polythiophene) for
urban and agricultural power generation. C. Developing space
based solar collectors and microwave transmission of power
from space D. Terminating every stormwater and major farm
runoff in an engineered wetland in order to conserve land
based EMERGY in riverine catchments - from where it
originates. This avoids the localised and catastrophic build
up of energy at coastal boundaries around the planet, which is
what we perceive as Climate Change.
With all nations working together as partners, created
equal and working together for a simple common KAEP goal,
defence from missiles of all kinds will be Guaranteed.
I win .... THIS game!
The problem with not comprehending that you ARE in the
BARNYARD cantabb, is that you will be looking the other way
when the farmer comes around with his axe.
I don't expect a chook like you to understand the
complexities inherent in a KAEP defence doctrine, so I will
continue to shove it in your beak for the benefit of others
who may come to appreciate its power.
Keep pecking!
rshow55
- 11:39am Oct 14, 2003 EST (#
14980 of 14988) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Gisterme has worked hard on this board - http://www.mrshowalter.net/PostsBy_Gisterme.htm
and Almarst has, too http://www.mrshowalter.net/PostsBy_Almarst.htm
Today gisterme asked what it was that I'd been
trying to accomplish on the board - and what perhaps we'd
collectively worked to accomplish on this board - and
asked some other good questions, too.
A technical summary of discussions on Missile
defense just after this board was restarted at the beginning
of March 2002 is set out with links in 84 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.uicsbaqOOYn.2469208@.f28e622/99
The day before the board was restarted - there was summary
discussion on issues that still seem fresh - including some
very good questions and comments from manjumicha2001 -
and while I'm mulling over responses to Gisterme's
posts this morning - it seems sensible to post them - as
summaries of the first 12,000 or so postings on this board.
Clear communication - Iran, Iraq, NK - and threats - what's
reasonable? : http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md11000s/MD11916.HTM
Response to manj -and "two long sentences of summary": http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md11000s/MD11920.HTM
Responsibility to be clear and to expect clarity: http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md11000s/MD11926.HTM
Basic human needs - and key question from manj: http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md11000s/MD11928.HTM
"Idealism" or "realism" - and manj on pathos versus logic:
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md11000s/MD11931.HTM
Nukes are still terribly dangerous - and key question by
Almarst: http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md11000s/md11932_11939.htm
Two long summary sentences I wrote at manjumicha's
request:
If the United States could, and would,
explain its national interest -- distinct from the interests
of its military-industrial complex, and explain how its
interests fit in the interconnected world we live in -- and
do it honestly, and in ways that other nations could check,
it could satisfy every reasonable security need it has,
without unreasonable or unacceptably unpopular uses of
force.
The rest of the world, collectively, and in
detail, would try hard to accomodate US needs, if it
understood them, and could reasonably believe and respect
them.
For the separate, and distinctly different cases of Iran,
Iraq, and North Korea, there would be different sentences - -
but the two long sentences above seem to me to be most
important.
- -
Here is almarst-2001 - 10:55pm Feb 28, 2002 EST (#11939
of 11939)
The just released Wite House tapes releaved
that Nixon was ready to order the nuclear strikes against
Vietnam, being stopped by Kissinger.
Can any nation in the World afford placing
its fate in the hands of a couple of the "wise man" in
Washington?
That remains a question that has to be considered
seriously. Perhaps now more than ever.
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