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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 10:47am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14730 of 14735)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I don't think anybody intelligent enough to enjoy reading The New York Times can read these postings and doubt that the NYT organization cares - and has to care - about this thread. I don't think many could do so without being able to make very good inferences about the level at which the thread has been considered in the NYT organization. I think anyone in his or her senses could see the extent of the involvement - especially after looking at http://www.mrshowalter.net/Sequential.htm .

A time comes where most people consider the possibility that what people are doing what it looks like they are doing. ( They consider other possibilities, as well, of course. )

I'm a guy who has been in a very awkward situation - who asked to get his credentials sorted out - according to instructions - and the Times - which could easily do so by making an exception - refuses to do so.

At the same time - the NYT is supporting the thread - which is expensive in a number of ways - for reasons - some perhaps admirable - some perhaps not - that involve some very conflicted interests and feelings.

It seems to me that there are awkwardnesses here that could easily be sorted out - but under circumstances where the NYT has to make some accomodations that look a lot cheaper than what it is doing now. I bet a lot of "average readers of The New York Times" might see it the same way.

But then, to me, the effort in http://www.mrshowalter.net/Cantabb_Srch_to10_4.htm - taken as a whole, looks ugly to me. And boring. Perhaps it looks beautiful to "the average reader of the New York Times". But I wonder about that.

cantabb - 10:53am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14731 of 14735)

rshow55 - 09:31am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14727 of 14727)

Question: Who's your employer ? [Eisenhoer & Casey, both now dead, or UW-M ? or ?] And, who ordained you for this 'job' ? Any one alive -- Not just in your imagination ? And what are you supposed to be working on ? for them ? or yourself ? [cantabb]

rshow55: Partly for myself. [“what are you supposed to be working on ? for them ? or yourself ?”]

On anything SPECIFIC, and related to MD ?

Partly to make a point about exception handling that all sorts of people ought to take an interest in.

You mean people do NOT already know this ? Or, may be know it but can’t ‘handle’ the way you can and do ?

If the NYT wanted to do some exception handling that would be easy to do - and easy to explain to stockholder, journalists, and "the average reader of the New York Times" this thread could be an asset to me personally - to the TIMES - and to we'd have more fun. [emphasis added]

Paying attention, NYT & staff, NYT stockholders & Forum moderators ?

As it stands - I'm watching the NYT explain to the whole world how inflexible and unfair it can be. [emphasuis added]

NYT: "I'm 'watching you," says he [a la 'The Police' song ?]. What can be "inflexible ad unfair" ? NYT ? or the World ?

Issues of duty matter.

Sure. Are you talking about YOUR "duty" ? Where ? Here at NYT ? Or, for Eisenhower-Casey ? And what "issues" [anything specific ? Or you'd rather NOT say here publicly, having raised it here for reasons of your own ?]

Entertainment matters, too. Search Fredmoore - who is both serious and entertaining.

Sure. I've seen some 'barnyard' variety provided by schoolyard-Fredmoore. Didn't you find his recent interest in returning ON-topic amusing and "enteraining" -- particularly, after doing anything and everything else, except on MD issues for his time on this Forum!

I'll say: Pressure matters too !

fredmoore - 11:20am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14732 of 14735)

Cantabbelle Rap: ( As sung by Cantabb him/her self.)

Gunna tell a story yes yo heard it before--

Mere verbiage -- dismissed galore:

May be “reasons” that sound “logical” to you

– and that doesn’t say or amount to much,

does it ?

One can STILL ‘switch’ between perspectives on THE SAME

specific issue, focused, make a rational insane.

This gobbledygook doesn’t even make much sense.

And, why worry ?

Perhaps it shows in Not quite a perverse way

“ordinary .. human behavior” does go astray !

Are you still imagining your teen-year “fights” ?

You've got me so cut up I could punch out your lights.

Couldn't I?

No coincidence Fredmoore is on topic

Thanks to Will and Blue not my silly myopic

call the pressure, a service to the forum , yes entropic

if I try to leave this barn yard behind.

you’re NOT talking about being “assigned”

to do it here on NYT’s MD forum , are you blind?

You think other “fights" don’t happen ?

You gonna tell us RIGHT again ?

Don't tell me to stop I just love bein' a pain.

Anything to do with MD science ? Specifically ?

Or, are you re-visiting your Granny down in mississippi

with that teen year fightin'?

Still re-living your teen-year fightin' ?

Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem, Ahem?

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