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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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wrcooper - 11:34am Oct 8, 2003 EST (# 14638 of 14663)

klsanford0

By all means, do what you want. That is indeed your right, and I certainly never challenged that or told you to "shut up". I merely suggested that we'd all be better off ignoring Showalter, and indeed that's the case.

If engaging Showalter trips your trigger, however, go for it. I used to argue with him, too. So did gisterme . But I assure you it's a waste of your time. It won't accomplish anything, other than egg him on to keep piling his manure in our laps.

It's true that many of us haven't written much about missile defense lately. For some time, actually. That's because everybody has been wrapped up in arguing with Showalter about this or that. I got into a tiff with him because he used to insist that I was NYT journalist and author George Johnson and called me a liar when I denied it. He was as convinced of that as he is currently that gisterme is a high-level Bush administration personage, maybe even the Commander-in-Chief himself. He had to abandon his obsession or delusion reagrding my identity when he finally met me face to face in Chicago. I'm afraid I've been a big disappointment to Bob. Even though I probably tried harder than anyone else to befriend him and help him early on in our forum-based acquaintanceship, he turned on me, inexplicably, like a rabid dog. Nice guy, that Showalter.

Anyway, you're new, and you'll catch on. Meanwhile, I myself will return to on-topic posts. Let this be my last response to anything regarding Showalter or Lunarchic. I won't respond to any posts from them (since I've blocked them) nor to any responding to them. I'd be happy to discuss missile defense with you. It's a critical national and international issue.

Cheers

Will

klsanford0 - 11:36am Oct 8, 2003 EST (# 14639 of 14663)

http://www.nytimes.com/membercenter/formrops.html

Email the Moderators here about Showalter. Join the ASF. The Anti-Showalter Front....

wrcooper - 11:38am Oct 8, 2003 EST (# 14640 of 14663)

klsanford0

Good luck emailing the moderators about Showalter.

They're well aware of him alrady.

They've already banned him a number of times previously.

You'll no doubt get a nice sympathetic message, explaining that history, and recommending you put him on your "Ignore List".

That's what you should do, my friend.

Let us know the outcome of your appeal.

klsanford0 - 11:39am Oct 8, 2003 EST (# 14641 of 14663)

WR:

" I'd be happy to discuss missile defense with you."

Thanks for your kind post....I realize you are trying to give me the best advice possible, and I know in some ways you're absolutely right....I'll just have to learn as you did, I guess. I'm stubborn!

fredmoore - 11:40am Oct 8, 2003 EST (# 14642 of 14663)

Cantabb,

You behave like a chook in a barnyard with a Mme Defarge complex which makes you obsessively and compulsively nit at Rshow. Can I put it any plainer or more simply? Only your delusions of grandeur prevent you from understanding this truth.

My only stake in highlighting this truth is to show serious MD forumites that you are a threat to any contructive dialogue taking place. Hopefully they will then see your destructiveness and not encourage you as has been the case. You obscure relevant discussions. Rshow obscures relevant discussions also but he at least shows some capacity for analysing missile defence and is worthy of continued attempts at steerage. You on the other hand propagate your barnyard nonsense with the delusion you are somehow above reproach and no matter how much you evade and resist that notion you cannot erase its truth.

As for KAEP, If I for one moment thought you were interested I would convey all the information you could want. However YOUR overt hostility and your inability to read my posts on KAEP from june 18 2003, lead me to the conclusion that you are an utter waste of time and effort.

In future therefore I will, unless you can get with the program and show that you can be constructive around here, just reply to your meaningless 'personal delusion' posts with the anagram PSOT ... Post something on Topic. That at least will put pay to your stupid FISKING.

So keep up the effete barnyard nonsense but don't expect anything but contempt from people who are interested in an amusing and entertaining discussion that leads gently to a credible National Defence solution rather than just a missile defence strategy.

PS Irregardless of the context, when you make a mistake like saying Mme Defarge was doing something other than knitting in the final scenes of the "Tale of Two Cities" then it is customary to apologise and move on. To continually evade the consequences of your own mistakes only reinforces Rshow's determination to do exactly what you are trying to stop. You have shown that you are totally incapable of stopping his posts and only a bolt of lightning will raise your consciousness to a level where this truth sinks in.

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