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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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cantabb
- 07:51pm Sep 26, 2003 EST (#
14033 of 14052)
rshow55 - 06:46pm Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14031 of
14032)
"08" should be "8" after WebX? The intended
address is http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LpUabJXSJtR.2193413@.f28e622/15727
Made no difference. More of the same.
rshow55 - 07:13pm Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14032 of
14032)
Bush Seeks Putin's Support on Iraq, Iran By
REUTERS Published: CAMP DAVID, Md. (Reuters) - .............
A lot of posts on this thread since 13639-43
http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LpUabJXSJtR.2193413@.f28e622/15332
- but it seems to me that those posts bear rereading.
Don't think so !
Some things have changed some.
NOT enough. MOST of it the same !
13639 begins: It is vital that people be
able to find out what happened when it matters enough.
.........I made that point in May 14, 2001 EST (#3870 -
.............. The truth matters because we have to make
decisions - other people have to make decisions - and both
life and logic can be complicated.
And, you know "what happened when it matters enough"
?
I was asked to look for stability conditions
in what Kline later called "sociotechnical systems" - and
asked to find end games that resulted in stable, efficient,
humane function by Eisenhower. ...
BUT that's what YOUR story ? Where's the corroboration ?
Your serial references to your own posts is NOT corrobration !
Even if it were (hard to believe, though), you say that you
were asked to do this publicly on this NYT Forum on MD ? And,
single-handedly, without ANY access whatsoever to classified
government sources ?
As of now, the Bush administration refuses
to face - or clarify - key questions about the logical
structure, facts, weights, and team identifications and
rules involved in their interaction with other groups and
nations. And refuses to face - or clarify - key questions
about the logical structure, facts, weights, team
identifications and rules involved in their interaction with
American citizens.
And, you expect them to release all behind-the-scenes
stuff. Something NO government -- Australian, UK's, or
American [under Eisenhower or any one else] -- does (or did)
that ! You don't understand the international diplomacy or
discussions.
A child should be able to see that.
Why can't you ?
Cantabb asks SO ? on some points that are
very practical indeed. It seems to me that cantabb ought to
know that.
"[O]ught to ? Can't divine !
Lchic and I have been putting our primary
efforts on this board toward establishing effective
communication between nation states - so that risks of death
and agony can go down. Have we been ineffective? Maybe. Bush
and Putin will know something about that. We've tried to be
useful.
Really ? By generalities and Zen conundrums ? You
think people in the both these governments (we agree with them
or not) are NOT aware of sunday school things you keep passing
off as IF new and apocalyptic ?
And we've done a lot of work on the nuts and
bolts of missile defense, as well. 84-86 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LpUabJXSJtR.2193413@.f28e622/99
No evidence !
And, you're STILL NOT trying to focus and be coherent.
You STILL have NOT said: What is it you have been working
on and how? And, what have you accomplished, specifically ?
Do you have even AN iota of classified information at all ?
Other than what's available in the public press around the
world and available to ALL, including the government officials
involved.
gisterme
- 08:17pm Sep 26, 2003 EST (#
14034 of 14052)
cantabb -
"...You must NOT remember the exchange we've had
!..."
Of course I remember it. The reason it ended is because I
got the sense that you had no clue what it was about. I
haven't changed my mind about that yet. :-)
"...Once again, what do you think you accomplished being
a "regular" and participating in the endless slop ?..."
What I've accomplished by participating in this forum is
being entertained. What have you accomplished here or
on any other web forum, cantabb?
cantabb
- 08:33pm Sep 26, 2003 EST (#
14035 of 14052)
gisterme - 08:17pm Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14034 of
14034)
Of course I remember it. The reason it ended
is because I got the sense that you had no clue what it was
about. I haven't changed my mind about that yet. :-)
AGAIN, Read the posts carefully. I know it has been
somewhat of a challenge for you.
What I've accomplished by participating in
this forum is being entertained.
Well, some like participating in slop.
What have you accomplished here or on any
other web forum, cantabb?
Nothing more than any other poster would want: a focused
discussion. Something the "regulars" on this Forum can't seem
to have.
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