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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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cantabb - 11:56am Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14014 of 14030)

More of the same digressive monlogue on more non-sequiturs :

rshow55 by-line: "Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread."

Can YOU ?

rshow55 - 07:12am Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 13999 of 14008)

rshow55 - 07:16am Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14000 of 14008)

How many people actually know How to agree to disagree clearly, without fighting, comfortably, so that they can cooperate stably, safely, and productively. Anybody? Could there be technical and logical problems involved? Sure looks that way to me. When fights happen - I'm not a bit sure that people are all that clear, specifically, about why they are fighting.

Best asked in the Sunday school.

rshow55 - 07:49am Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14003 of 14008)

Cantabb made a telling point in 13964 "Cantabb: "Peace making" reuires much more than wishful thinking."

And indeed it does ! But there are necessary conditions to stable peacemaking ……….

NOT mere wishful thinking. Do you think any one of the so called “necessary condition” can be effectively used when you have defined neither the problem nor the approach ?

Even a child should know the things above - and kids could be taught them. Adults need to know them, too. ………..

Adult world is complicated. Sometimes even resembles the kid-world and school yard.

Most people, including most leaders - do not know this - Nash didn't know this result. It is a result both Eisenhowers wanted desperately:

Forget Nash and the Eisenhower brothers, the question here is: DO YOU KNOW THIS ?

Is the statement "diffuse" ? In the sense that logically incremental leadership is diffuse, it is. But it is necessary for people to learn this - if peace making is ever to be stable.

For this forum, YOU need to learn and use that too, whatever you mean by these generalities. Period.

rshow55 - 07:54am Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14004 of 14008)

Usages that many people cherish make it strictly impossible to get the answers above. ……..We need to construct better, more stable ones, in spots where it matters enought to do the work to do so.

On this Forum, it involves YOU. See if you can do that !

cantabb - 11:57am Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14015 of 14030)

rshow55 - 08:16am Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14006 of 14008)

Fighting is sometimes useful and sometimes not. The rule "never fight" is a good one - but there need to be exceptions that work. We need to know when it is useful or necessary to fight, when it isn't - know how to fight better - know how to avoid fights better - in specific cases - including specific cases that require switching. ………….When things need to be worked out well enough for cooperation that is worth it - we have to be able to evaluate these questions with more sophistication and humanity.

Many things have their place - and the urge to punish cheats can be useful http://www.mrshowalter.net/UrgeToPunishCheatsNotJustHumanButSelfless.htm

But like other passions - it can misfire. These days, as in the past, it does misfire - in lethal and destructive ways - much too often. How many people actually know this - in cases where it actually matters and they have emotional interests at stake?

It looks to me like more people need to.

It deals mostly with you. Ramblings don’t change the situation. Merely confirm what has been confirmed before.

rshow55 - 09:52am Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14008 of 14008)

Menken on politics, from Quotes From H. L. Mencken http://watchfuleye.com/mencken.html …….If they could learn - we could all do a lot better. If they do learn - almarst's hard work on this thread will be a big part of the reason.

More OFF-topic ramblings.

fredmoore - 12:10pm Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14016 of 14030)

Rshow,

"There are some things to be said against this thread - but one of the things to say for it is that fredmoore's on it. Search fredmoore . A lot of good stuff, I'd say."

Thanks Robert

Stay tuned to this station.

PS. Glad you are over the Gisterme thangy. That was a worry!

lchic - 02:55pm Sep 26, 2003 EST (# 14017 of 14030)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Humanity and Knowledge

were the joint themes of a speech given by Putin

at a US University

Where he was warmly received

Putin and Bush to send time at Camp David

If Putin is wrapped in 'Knowledge and Humanity'

What will Bush be wearing .... ?

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