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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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cantabb
- 11:54pm Sep 24, 2003 EST (#
13932 of 13958)
fredmoore - 09:27pm Sep 24, 2003 EST (# 13929 of
13931)
'What's fair' and 'what's cheating' don't
seem to cover the realities. Perhaps, in ways that transmute
to something tangible and something that really matters to
juries and to those concerned with connecting dots in order
to achieve symmetry outside of the kitchen sink,
Just as coherent as your friend !
the following story (retold) reaches the
heart of the matter:
There was an ant in the jungle who fancied
an elephant. So one day he climbed all the way up her back
legs to take out his satisfaction on her. A Monkey in a
nearby tree saw this and was disgusted, incensed and
secretly very jealous. So the Monkey picked up a coconut and
threw it at the ant. However, his aim was poor and he hit
the elephant on the head and the elephant let out a sharp
cry. The ant hearing this yelled out "take it baby, take
it!!"
Reminds me of rshow: How many times is THIS lame thing
going to be posted here? And, forget, How does it fit in ?
Will the Monkey hit the ant or will he run
out of coconuts ... or will the whole darned forest burn to
the ground in a firestorm? Will the ant pick up a coconut
and hit the monkey? These and all your other questions will
be answered in coming episodes:
Roger Ramjet, He's our man Hero of the
Nation For his adventures just be sure To stay tuned to this
station.
So nice at least one dedicated "regular" from DownUnder
stays tuned? What else can we expect of him: He's NOT going to
leave the school yard anytime soon.
cantabb
- 11:59pm Sep 24, 2003 EST (#
13933 of 13958)
commondata - 10:02pm Sep 24, 2003 EST (# 13930 of
13931)
I've just looked in for a brief moment and
it's good to you're still at it Rshow. Cantabb, Jorian, you
really are the most boring people ... block Rshow if you
don't want to read him or go somewhere else. Yawn.
That's why perhaps you did NOT notice that, ever since my
FIRST post here a week ago, I've just just been responding to
the posts addressed to me by the "regulars."
Asking rshow to focus and not ramble on and one
makes me "most boring" ?
You must like rambling, self-referencing cycles on NOTHING
of any substance, instead ! Good to know !
patthnyc
- 12:22am Sep 25, 2003 EST (#
13934 of 13958) ". . . how fragile we are . . ." --
Sting
30,000 nuclear warheads
http://www.thenation.com/outrage/index.mhtml?bid=6
We've got 11,000 nuclear weapons -- some as battlefield
"tactical" nukes, some in storage, and about 7,000 mounted on
fueled, hair-trigger-to-launch ICBMs. The Russians have about
19,500 nuclear weapons -- about 5,500 of them on fueled,
hair-trigger-alert missiles. From the moment the early-warning
systems cry danger (real or cyber-glitch), the US government
allows itself 22 minutes before launch keys are turned in
retaliation; the Russian government allows itself six minutes.
And the Bush Republican response?
1. We need more nukes. For terrorists.
2. North Korea is evil and can't have a nuclear weapon. Not
one. Because someday soon we'll probably attack them. Unless
they have a nuclear weapon.
3. The 30,000-strong Cold War arsenal of nukes will not, in
any meaningful way, be on the agenda of the George
Bush-Vladimir Putin summit this weekend. Not important enough,
what with Iraq and oil and all.
And so goes yet-another missed opportunity for real
security.
* *
"Now look boys, I ain't much of a hand at makin' speeches.
But I got a pretty fair idea that something doggoned
important's going on back there. And I got a fair idea of the
kind of personal emotions that some of you fella's may be
thinking. Heck, I reckon you wouldn't even be human beings if
you didn't have some pretty strong personal feelings about
nuclear combat. But I want you to remember one thing, the
folks back home is a countin' on ya, and by golly we ain't
about to let 'em down. Tell you somethin' else. This thing
turns out to be half as important is I figure it just might
be, I'd say that you're all in line for some important
promotions and personal citations when this thing's over with.
That goes for every last one of you, regardless of your race,
color, or your creed. Now, let's get this thing on the hump.
We got some flying to do." -- that cowboy pilot from "Dr.
Strangelove"
almarst2003
- 12:37am Sep 25, 2003 EST (#
13935 of 13958)
New world potion that was poison to Dr Sam - http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1048996,00.html
Clinton adviser Joseph Stiglitz tracks the genesis of
anti-Americanism in our second extract from his new book
The policy framework we pushed abroad was the one that
would help our businesses do well abroad. At home, there was a
check on these policies, caused by concern for consumers and
workers. Abroad, there was none. At home, we resisted pressure
for changes in the bankruptcy law that would unduly hurt
debtors. Abroad, a primary concern in any foreign crisis
seemed the promptest and fullest repayment of debts to US and
other western banks, even to the point of supplying billions
of dollars to ensure that they happened. The deregulation
mantra that we pushed too far at home we pushed even further
abroad.
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