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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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cantabb - 07:56pm Sep 22, 2003 EST (# 13859 of 13875)

rshow55 - 07:38pm Sep 22, 2003 EST (# 13858 of 13858)

I posted a number of postings very specifically connected to missile defense. Did you look at them? ( See above. )

Again, I recommend you look at 13691-2

Even IF you think that was strictly on-topic (and what you think is often NOT what others think too), you also posted LOTS and LOTS of other stuff (including personal, conspiracies, identity speculations etc) absolutely nothing to do with the forum. Not to mention, the circular self-referencing cycles. Saying something repeatedly doesn't make it true.

See if you can focus, and post. Spare us the rest. Asking you to do that IS NOT "hostile."

rshow55 - 08:00pm Sep 22, 2003 EST (# 13860 of 13875)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md10000s/md10638.htm includes posts I'm proud of - including an especially interesting post by gisterme - with and interesting usage of the word "trust" - and a post by lchic that I think is wonderful.

We need to learn to be clearer, and more reasonable, about what cheating is - and what fairness is.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/UrgeToPunishCheatsNotJustHumanButSelfless.htm

Fairness and the question of what cheating is are surely central to this board - as it has developed.

What the Monkeys Can Teach Humans About Making America Fairer By ADAM COHEN http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/21/opinion/21SUN3.html

Genetic Basis to Fairness, Study Hints By NICHOLAS WADE (NYT) News http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/18/science/18MONK.html

We need answers that work in practice - and accomodate the fact that people do mislead (and are expected to ) 13244 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.42TIbay2HeE.1251182@.f28e622/14929

Truth About Lies: Telling Them Can Reveal a Lot By RICHARD A. FRIEDMAN, M.D. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/29/health/psychology/29BEHA.html (reprinted, with a title change, as ) Truth About Lies: They Tell a Lot About a Lair . Dr. Friedman's piece includes this:

In fact, few human behaviors are viewed as paradoxically as lying. We teach our children that it is wrong, yet we lie every day in the name of civility. We deem those who lie too often or extensively as untrustworthy, while we may call those who lie too little guileless. And though we routinely expect marketers and politicians to lie, we spare them no end of moral outrage when they do.

The outrage tells a lot, too.

We have some technical and logical problems to solve - and I appreciate the chance to "connect the dots" - on this thread - even if I have to do some fencing while the focusing goes on.

My guess is that both Eisenhowers, and Casey - would have been fascinated (and maybe even proud) of the results.

And maybe even more proud to take the New York Times because of this thread.

lchic - 08:33pm Sep 22, 2003 EST (# 13861 of 13875)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

100% foreign ownership (Iraq - infrastructure & commerce) .... why not build a % share in for selected local peoples or projects?

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lchic - 08:34pm Sep 22, 2003 EST (# 13862 of 13875)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Counteracting the simplex amebiod mind of the Terrrorist ... in the complex world ...

fredmoore - 08:42pm Sep 22, 2003 EST (# 13863 of 13875)

Who said this thread was Poultry?

Or is that Paltry?

LOL

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