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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 05:03pm Aug 24, 2003 EST (# 13370 of 13375)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

20 Postings by Gisterme 8375 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.8wV9btfsBZB.5362778@.f28e622/9902

20 Postings by Gisterme 8376 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.8wV9btfsBZB.5362778@.f28e622/9903

20 Postings by Gisterme 8377 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.8wV9btfsBZB.5362778@.f28e622/9904

All these posts are available, either by links here, or by date at http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm

There are about another 400 posts by gisterme since January - and I'm reviewing them, and will make them available in a form that staffs could use (as a prototyping exercise, as if staffs might be interested.)

Gisterme has worked hard - and I've disagreed with him sometimes - sometimes pretty forcefully - but I'm lucky that gisterme is paying this thread any attention to this thread at all - busy as (s)he's likely to be. In situations that can be called "paradigm conflicts" - people tend to ignore each other, too often, and a lot of people end up looking imperfect, one way of another.

I wrote a long section on 1623-1624 of a Guardian thread about a paradigm shift that I think could be useful - that is really "obvious" in some ways, but awkward in others.

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/1792

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/1793

Is this thread just a simulation, or an "open secret?" Either way - this thread either is, or prototypes, a considerable improvement on the situation Morris describes in

. Sieve City In our nation's capital, leaking is a way of life. By JANE MAYER http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20001203mag-essay.html

, where real secrets, are "literally hot air -- a few quick words exchanged while walking across the lawn." 13302 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.8wV9btfsBZB.5362778@.f28e622/14989

There's room for improvement in the world, sometimes and in some places. Maybe we can talk things around, and find some.

mazza9 - 07:56pm Aug 24, 2003 EST (# 13371 of 13375)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Fred

There is an education forum. I substitue teach and have already pulled several gigs since school started on Aug 18 here in Texas.

"A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins."

-- Benjamin Franklin

Your right, "Perhaps the best_______. Fill in the blank and it is always reduced to what good old Ben advised.

I think we're on the same page but in the wrong venue!

bbbuck - 10:17pm Aug 24, 2003 EST (# 13372 of 13375)

This forum has no topic from a de-facto viewpoint.

Anyone that's been reviewing this ...uhh...stuff.. for more than 1 day, knows that.

Goddard.

"I like a man that shoots rockets" - Mae West

wrcooper - 11:47pm Aug 24, 2003 EST (# 13373 of 13375)

bbbuck

This forum exists, I think, so that certain of its more hypergraphically challenged participants who roost proprietarily here will confine themselves to it. Better give them a forum where they can spout their omnibus bilge by the inexhaustible kilobyteful than let it slop out into other fora. It costs nothing except a realtively small swath of hard drive that the moderators erase every few months or so, consigning the itsy bitsy bits of ipse dixit to the deep, even the carefully documented gistermian presidential pronunciamentos that one of the regulars has indexed so carefully and stored at home. (Ah, thank God for that.! Think what would be lost forever otherwise. These NYT forum moderators have no sense of history. I suspect that one day they'll be seeking to publish them. If only I had charge of that slush pile.)

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