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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 07:00pm Aug 22, 2003 EST (# 13363 of 13375)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

12916 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.8wV9btfsBZB.5362736@.f28e622/14592

Berle:

" Normal individuals have a high content of internal restraint based on a system of ideas and morals in which they were brought up or to which they agree. Power holders know this; hence their concern with systems of ideas and of morals. To extend power beyond the reach of their fist, they must foster a situation where the people within scope of their power act predictably, will follow instructions, will maintain a degree of order.

For fundamental reasons, power and ideas are connected. And people who hold power have an obligation to find ways to be right - and to explain themselves.

- - -

If only we could go back in time to things that were discussed on this thread in March, and before March, of this year. It would make sense to retrace steps.

Search "renegotiation" - this thread. We have reason to renegotiate some things - and face some things - now.

We could make a lot of progress - things could be a lot safer.

There's a quote from Benjamin Franklin:

" Experience keeps a dear school. A fool will learn in no other." 9386 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.8wV9btfsBZB.5362736@.f28e622/10922

Almarst has said a lot of things that are right.

9885-6 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.8wV9btfsBZB.5362736@.f28e622/11429 :

. Currently, nations seem prepared to expend tens of billions to engage in fights that look avoidable - kill tens or hundreds of thousands of people - displace millions, and anger hundreds of millions - - but whenever there is any whiff of a reason not to - nations see to it that key facts can't be checked, - even if it could be done for relatively tiny amounts of effort.

Is that really an unchangeable fact?

. . .

The fact looks more changeable than it looked, just a few months ago. So maybe there's hope.

bbbuck - 07:33pm Aug 22, 2003 EST (# 13364 of 13375)

istopdeath - may god bless you, my brother.

And keep the faith.

Do you own any missiles?

jorian319 - 07:39pm Aug 22, 2003 EST (# 13365 of 13375)

Is top death better than bottom death?

fredmoore - 09:22am Aug 24, 2003 EST (# 13366 of 13375)

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/22/1061513795916.html?from= Branded: The Buying and Selling of Teenagers By Peter Gotting August 23, 2003 Branded: The Buying and Selling of Teenagers By Alissa Quart

It's cool to write about young people and brands these days. If you're not writing about ways to make brands loved, you're writing about how to make them loathed.

Quart argues many social problems are a form of branding. Brands are becoming undemocratic, infringing on rights, with speech against brands restricted at sponsored events and even schools. Branded raises the question: why does the majority of the population accept this? This question is not easily answered and Quart barely touches on it. Surely this issue is key to understanding why brands are becoming so powerful.

Our educational standards are clearly becoming subjigated to corporate dictates ... they want children to remain uneducated and teachers to be under threat as that yields better market penetration.

BAD Corporations! Pay teachers more and allow them to compete with the trashy profit taking ideals inculcated by boardroom directors. Give kids a chance to learn without the fear of being bought and sold!

mazza9 - 12:25pm Aug 24, 2003 EST (# 13367 of 13375)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

"Branded: The Buying and Selling of Teenagers By Peter Gotting August 23, 2003 Branded: The Buying and Selling of Teenagers By Alissa Quart"

And what better argument for a national missile defense program!

This is a fine example of teaching how to be "On Topic"

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