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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:37pm Aug 18, 2003 EST (# 13329 of 13335)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

The story of Kelly's "apparent suicide" is at least as consistent with murder as it is of suicide.

Dr. Kelly seems to have bowed his back - and insisted on telling the truth. People who are cornered like that, and refuse to fold, typically fight on.

For a man of Kelly's background and expertise in killing to kill himself by slashing a single wrist has always seemed far-fetched.

I think it is very easy to "imagine a story" where Kelly was murdered - by the order of someone close to Blair.

For me, the story that Kelly killed himself is harder to imagine. By a good deal. Though not quite impossible.

The idea of a "license to kill" is hardly far-fetched at that level - as the James Bond movies, my own training, and many discussions in the open literature ought to make clear.

I think this is serious:

E-Mail Says British Arms Report Was Heavily Rewritten By WARREN HOGE http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/18/international/worldspecial/18CND-BRIT.html

I believe leaders do have to have the power to kill people under some circumstances. But if the story is as I suspect - those limits were overstepped in this case.

There are honest mistakes - but there need to be limits.

Both the press, and leaders of nation states with interests in international law, ought to insist on that, it seems to me.

almarst2002 - 07:45am Aug 19, 2003 EST (# 13330 of 13335)

"I believe leaders do have to have the power to kill people under some circumstances"

Try to believe in GOD. Or at least pretend to.

almarst2002 - 07:57am Aug 19, 2003 EST (# 13331 of 13335)

'Why I attacked US troops' - http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EH19Ak03.html

"He offers up some generalities about why he personally dislikes the US presence. "They constantly pass by in their uniforms and with their weapons and they treat everybody badly, men and women," he says. Like many other Iraqis, Walid says that he is particularly upset at the way some soldiers treat women during raids and searches. "They touch women and grab them," he says. ...

"They said we are non-believers, savages, that we have no right to live," Walid says. He recalls that a sergeant said the Iraqis are "unbelievable people" and that "they can go to hell".

almarst2002 - 08:04am Aug 19, 2003 EST (# 13332 of 13335)

U.S. Use of Napalm Bombs In Iraq: "Napalm. The horror weapon in the Viet Nam war. It is internationally outlawed, their use is contrary to international law. And it was nevertheless used in the Iraq war by the US army. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4395.htm

THE POWER IS PLENTFUL... THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE "OILY"...

TIME TO KILL!

almarst2002 - 08:10am Aug 19, 2003 EST (# 13333 of 13335)

A new doctrine for U.S. power in the 21st century, an aggressive, unilateral approach that would secure American domination of world affairs -- "by force if necessary," http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2326.htm

NEW?

istopdeath - 09:56am Aug 19, 2003 EST (# 13334 of 13335)

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In the future, when it's no longer considered acceptable behavior to create all children to Die like We All Do Now, war will subside when children experience that their parents want to keep them alive indefinately and are willing to do whatever is neccessary to create that.

Otherwise, what do you expect? Missile Defense

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