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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 01:27pm Aug 18, 2003 EST (# 13327 of 13329)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Statement:

People's objections to me, and things I say and propose, mostly involve the dimension of status - - where my background, and problems, really are unusual.

To get the notion of Disciplined Beauty http://www.mrshowalter.net/DBeauty.html to work better, more usefully - statements like the one above have to be subject to more explicit clarification - at the level of mechanics.

I don't feel like apologizing too much for the awkward aspects (from a status viewpoint ) of some of the suggestions and requests I make.

I had some special "swimming lessons." http://www.mrshowalter.net/SP_51_n_Swim.htm

I was complicit in those "unusual circumstances" - but I didn't have much more discretion in the matter than Mimi Beardsley did - - and I'm doing the best I can.

rshow55 - 08:30pm Aug 18, 2003 EST (# 13328 of 13329)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8693.htm reads in part:

" gisterme and I discussed the notion that Americans, and especially American officers, can look too much like Major Strasser of Casablanca , subject matter discussed, with connections in MD3383-3385 (links: rshowalter 9/8/01 8:24pm ) in the following passages, which I believe are very interesting now, both in terms of things to be hoped for, and things to be concerned about.

" Gisterme argues that I'm making some unfair analogies, and in some ways (s)he's right.

"But I argue that the analogies deal with matters that it is vital for Americans to understand, if we are to have certain kinds of practical hope.

Conrad Veidt as Major Strasser in Casablanca (1942) http://www.powernet.net/~hflippo/cinema/cvfoto08.html

http://www.powernet.net/~hflippo/cinema/cvfoto08.html is also a good picture of Captain Renault and Herr Heinze

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md3000s/md3380.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md3000s/md3385.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md3000s/md3411.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md3000s/md3420.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md3000s/md3434.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4039.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4044.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4070.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4119.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4156.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4157-59.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4748.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5031.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5037.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5105.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5107.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8354.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8596.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8693.htm

An archive of this thread is at http://www.mrshowalter.net/ . The archive contains a great deal of material, in convenient form, and some summary sections.

Much of the thread is available by date at http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm - - and there are indices with links, easy to get at, for all of the thread that is still up on the web.

I believe that if we "knew" more explicitly the things that have long been known an appreciated, less explicitly, by the people who wrote, acted, and have watched Casablanca - - we'd be able to sort out a great many problems that are damaging us, and may destroy us, because, so far, we've fallen short of the collective courage needed to solve problems.

I've been as couragious as I've thought I could be, playing this "game" - in the situation in which I've found myself.

I'm doing, to the best of my ability, exactly what I promised Casey and Eisenhower I would do. And what I have to do, to live with myself.

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