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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
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rshow55
- 01:49pm Aug 9, 2003 EST (#
13275 of 13275) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Menken on politics, from Quotes From H. L. Mencken
http://watchfuleye.com/mencken.html
"It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth
when you know that you would lie if you were in his
place."
"Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives
under." - - That's not inconsistent with practical,
responsible patriotism.
"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief
energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to
rule--and both commonly succeed, and are right... The United
States has never developed an aristocracy really disinterested
or an intelligentsia really intelligent. Its history is simply
a record of vacillations between two gangs of frauds."
But even the "frauds" do enough right that
we do as well as we do.
"A professional politician is a professionally
dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he
has to make so many compromises and submit to so many
humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a
streetwalker."
And that can apply to journalists ,
too. But often - journalists, politicians, and other people
are capable of honor .
I think Menken would have appreciated some of
Fredmoore's postings, as I do. But I think Menken might
well have been a constructive optimist - and a practical help
- where Fredmoore http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.wG8dbB28xPK.2433107@.f28e622/14948
takes a position that C.P. Snow called his "least favorite."
The position that, in the particular case, seems to me to be
both cynical and unworldly.
http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.wG8dbB28xPK.2433107@.f28e622/14948
includes this.
Even if an equatorial towed PV array were
feasible, and it is not, corporate states would tie it up in
knots and knobble it, lest it be competetive and interfere
with their bottom lines.
Not feasible? When I went to the Patent Office monday - I
got the opposite impression - and if Fredmoore had been there,
he might have as well. I know I would have been proud to have
him examine the material there - I think the Patent Office, in
its stark way, is an inspiring place. I think, with the stakes
as they are there would be a duty to
check.
When I was at the Patent Office, I was elated at how much
fit together - and felt, once again, that the focusing set out
in http://www.mrshowalter.net/DBeauty.html
was a real advance. If Lchic had been with me - I think
she would have seen that, too - and been very proud.
Even if solving our energy problems - in a way that would
make the whole world safer were technically feasible -
Fredmoore seems to think it would be suppressed. Would
it be? I don't think that Fredmoore's conclusion
necessarily follows.
To the extent it does follow - responses often seen at The
New York Times are a part of the reason. Responses that might
be "easy to change" - and might even be in the process of
changing. Though the TIMES is careful to avoid "laser
like" effects - except sometimes.
If someone with power, and Eisenhower's good sense were
involved - the thing could be done. Menken, were he alive,
might have had the will and the wit to be instrumental in
getting it done. People would talk to him.
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