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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 09:26pm Jul 22, 2003 EST (# 13106 of 13112)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Here are other links that cite deputy Hadley.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6460.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6624.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6666.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6765.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6789.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6808.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6826.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6860.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md6000s/md6926.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md7000s/md7009_7011.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md7000s/md7375.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8408.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8662.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/md1773.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md11000s/md11582.htm

4510 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.ban2bnbgscx.0@.f28e622/5700

5330 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.ban2bnbgscx.0@.f28e622/6685

8426 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.ban2bnbgscx.0@.f28e622/9952

8430 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.ban2bnbgscx.0@.f28e622/9956

I thought then, and think now, that Bush and his top people, definitely including Hadley, are responsible for right answers.

If Hadley got the communication from Tenet that he now says, and didn't convey the substance of that communication to Rice - that's an outrage.

White House Official Apologizes for Role in Uranium Claim By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/22/international/worldspecial/22CND-HADLEY.html

I don't see how that could have happened. Rice and Hadley are both too competent to have that happen "by mistake.

gisterme - 11:49pm Jul 22, 2003 EST (# 13107 of 13112)

"...Gisterme , I didn't come to the conclusion that you were Bush quickly - and maybe I jumped to an incorrect conclusion..."

You certainly did.

"...My early judgements were more guarded, and they were repeated..."

Right. Your early judgement was that I was Condoleeza Rice. You were certain of that for at least a year. :-)

".... . that gisterme , who has posted so extensively on this thread, could not have done so, without the knowledge and backing of the very highest levels of the Bush administration, including Rice , Rumsfeld , Armitage , Wolfowitz , Hadley , and their bosses..."

And again I ask, why not? I certainly have done so. As I said, all I have to do is pay my ISP bill every month and I can say whatever I want. After all, this is America. I've never met any of those people you listed and they can't know me any better than you do even if they did follow this forum. That means that whatever the foundations of your conclusion are, Robert, they are false. You just don't seem able to face that fact. Oh well. Having a good grip on reality doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Another thing I'll say again, that I've said several times before and that jorian was kind enough to repeat on his own today, is that government officials at the level that you're talking about have better things to do than screw around with web forums. As hard as that is for you to face, Robert, you should get used to the idea. You, I, or anybody else who posts on this forum do not have any influence over the decision making of government officials. They have important stuff to do. I can't imagine that sifting through our rambles couild possibly fall into that category.

So get over yourself, Robert. :-)

gisterme - 06:13am Jul 23, 2003 EST (# 13108 of 13112)

Looks like the "rooting out" in Iraq has been going pretty well. The world is now minus two monsters. I say, good riddance.

It's only a matter of time until Saddam and Ben Laden meet a similar fate. Whether that's a short time or a long time, their end is inevetable. They will get what they deserve.

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