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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 09:54am Jul 21, 2003 EST (#
13066 of 13070) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
rshow55 - 04:46pm May 15, 2003 EST (# 11694 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.3ON9bGbfrWR.195420@.f28e622/13304
If a nation state actually took an interest, it might
then be possible to count the deceptions and mistakes
representatives of the administration have made about missile
defense on this thread.
insert: Searching " UN or U.N.
" would offer a good start.
Attack on the Ad Man http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.3ON9bGbfrWR.195420@.f28e622/8784
Basic procedural patterns in http://www.mrshowalter.net/ScienceInTheNewsJan4_2000.htm
could be institutionalized and handled by the UN, or nation
states besides the United States - and it would be a good
thing if they were.
Fredmoore points out that "you need a plan, Stan"
and the point has been discussed for a a while. http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.3ON9bGbfrWR.195420@.f28e622/13371
includes this:
"What would I try to do, if I had my
security problems dealt with, and a bit of help from a
nation state in those few, but decisive, cases where I'd
need it?
"Based on what was actually set up, and almost done, at AEA
- with help from Ford Motor Company, the University of
Wisconsin, The Johns Hopkins University - and some of the most
admirable (and long-suffering) investors anybody ever had. And
some help and hinderance from Casey.
"Here's a key point.
There's one problem getting really sure of
what needs to be done - and can actually work.
A second problem actually doing it at full
scale.
"With different costs. Different procedures that have to be
applied. Different organizations needed. With interfaces that
have to work.
"If a permanent solution to the world energy problem was
pretty certain after a few hundred thousand bucks, nearly
certain after a million or two - and very certain at all
technical levels after a billion dollars was spent -
"but then required an investment (fully amortized in two
years) of 400 billion to implement
"- would that be a cost more or less than your $250 billion
dollars?
"You could answer either way.
" (Crude sales run at roughly 800 billion dollars/year.)
Could such a thing be done? To see why it is
difficult - you might think about what I've been
through - and the way I've been dealt with - on this thread.
See Berle's Laws of Power http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.3ON9bGbfrWR.195420@.f28e622/826
The stakes are large.
almarst2003 - 09:00pm Mar 13, 2003 EST (# 9903 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.3ON9bGbfrWR.195420@.f28e622/11447
speaks of key issues:
" Control of Oil and impact on a World
wide economy, Iraqi's geo-strategic and demographic
potential, credibility of Bush and his Administration,
future of Blair's Administration, future of UN, NATO and
international law, relationship between US, Britain and
"old"-Europe+Russia, degree of antiAmerican anti-Western
radicalization of Arab and Muslim nations (1,5 bn in total
as I think), Israeli-Palestinian conflict resolution."
All vitally important - big scale issues - that matter
now.
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