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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 12:03pm Jul 17, 2003 EST (#
13042 of 13047) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Postings on large scale solar energy in recent weeks on
this thread:
12220 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/13858
12222 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/13860
12223 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/13861
12357 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14007
12717-18 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14385
12737 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14405
I've been talking about large scale solutions to problems -
problems that might be thought of as "Eisenhower scale" - for
a long time.
gisterme - 03:06am Jun 30, 2003 EST (# 12749 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14420
12735 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14405
lchic - 08:40am Jun 30, 2003 EST (# 12755 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14426
12759 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14430
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12765-66 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14436
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12770 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14441
Optimization is "doing the best you can." It takes some
work to find out what "the best you can" is: 12759 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14430
gisterme - 11:36pm Jun 30, 2003 EST (# 12773 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14444
12774 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14445
12775 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14446
Movie people have a lot of influence - and a lot of
sophistication. Last year, I wrote this: 1228 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/1572
gisterme - 12:58am Jul 1, 2003 EST (# 12776 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14447
lchic - 03:06am Jul 1, 2003 EST (# 12778 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14449
Global warming:
12804 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14475
12806 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14477
12808 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14479
12855 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14526
12874 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14550
12875 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14551
12937 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14613
12939 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14615
12940 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14616
12966 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14642
Stages have different costs. If a permanent
solution to the world energy problem was pretty certain
after a few hundred thousand bucks, nearly certain after a
million or two - and very certain at all technical levels
after a billion dollars was spent - but then required a very
large investment (fully amortized in a few years) would it
be worth doing? And actually doable?
We're spending a billion dollars a week in Iraq.
I've also been worrying about organizational issues
involved with this sort of proposal, including some things
where I feel I need some permissions. 12855 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.LmCQb8K4rS2.0@.f28e622/14526
If I'm moving slowly on getting those permissions - it is
partly because I'm afraid - for the same reasons other
vulnerable people are afraid. (And we're all vulnerable.)
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