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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 06:01pm Jul 13, 2003 EST (# 13001 of 13008)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

As I understand it - two elephants (perhaps especially the male one) showed less than perfect decorum in the presence of the POTUS.

I recall a poster I saw, years ago at Johns Hopkins Medical School:

Doing things around here is like mating elephants.

Things are done at a very high level.

Accompanied by a lot of trashing and trumpeting.

And it takes eighteen months to accomplish anything.

(may have the gestation period wrong, but something like that) .

fredmoore - 06:17pm Jul 13, 2003 EST (# 13002 of 13008)

Dawn ...

I must say it's nice to be on a first name basis.

And I have to say thanks for the Mick Jagger article ... quite precious really.

Jumbo-Lingo ... is that like Um .... Lingua-Franca? Perhaps Lingua-Longa or maybe some other Lingua?

But seriously, I did enjoy the article.

fredmoore - 07:57am Jul 14, 2003 EST (# 13003 of 13008)

Robert ...

"Fredmoore , your last posting isn't nearly up to the standard of your 9425 "

Foil:

A character in a play who sets off the main character or other characters by comparison. In Shakespeare's "Hamlet" Hamlet and Laertes are young men who behave very differently. While Hamlet delays in carrying out his mission to avenge the death of his father, Laertes is quick and bold in his challenge of the king over the death of his father. Much can be learned about each by comparing and contrasting the actions of the two.

lchic - 08:15am Jul 14, 2003 EST (# 13004 of 13008)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Rockafellow

    "When you're doing your intelligence you'd better be aware of what kind of intelligence product the president is seeking'
Tenent
    My fault Boss Man ... I'm the fall guy ... knock me over
Rice
    GWB said - the Brits 'said'
State of the Union Address - contains a 'lie'

------------------------

Alex said it's all about oil

Iraq + Saudi have half the world's oil energy

lchic - 08:18am Jul 14, 2003 EST (# 13005 of 13008)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Rockefeller http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1335540.html

rshow55 - 10:23am Jul 14, 2003 EST (# 13006 of 13008)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Fredmoore: Legitimacy is a big issue - and there's more to it than just the admonition

"If you attack a king, you have to kill him . . "

important as that is, both symobolically and literally.

It is also true that if you "kill a king" you have to have a way to substitute a reasonable order.

Am a "sickled over with a pale cast of thought?" - - maybe sometimes.

Shakespeare's Hamlet , Act V, Scene 2 offers a cautionary tale. Hamlet, Laertes, the Queen, the King - all die. Messily.

We need to do better than that.

But ideas and honor matter - and I'm glad that Rockefeller is showing courage and honesty. http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1335540.html

"It's just beyond me that she (Rice)didn't know about this, and that she has decided to make George Tenet the fall person. I think it's dishonorable."

. . . . Sen. Jay Rockefeller http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1335540.html

I think it is dishonorable, too.

Can we solve problems? I believe so. But carefully.

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