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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 07:20am Jul 12, 2003 EST (#
12966 of 12968) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
lchic's ability to select important articles is a
wonder. http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Dza0bfYkpYT.823632@.f28e622/14636
From Oil shocked by Randeep Ramesh http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,11319,996305,00.html
which starts
A desire to loosen Opec's stranglehold on
petroleum prices lies behind Bush's interest in Africa and
his plans for Iraq . .
America's new world order appears founded on
a declaration of independence. George Bush, an oil man from
an oil state, wants America to wean itself off a dangerous
addiction to faraway hydrocarbons.
As the president's national energy plan puts
it, this is "a condition of increased dependency on foreign
powers that do not always have American interests at heart".
. . .
Since 1973, when Arab nations imposed an
embargo on oil exports to the US, US presidents have been
promising to end America's reliance on energy from
potentially unfriendly sources.
The answer is to come up with much more energy -
from stable sources.
12928 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Dza0bfYkpYT.823632@.f28e622/14604
cited yesterday's ExxonMobil Advertorial:
. A look back at a look ahead http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/100703.pdf
World total proved oil reserves are about 1.2 trillion
barrels - about 700 billion of that from the Middle East.
At current production rates (about 75 million barrells/day)
that's 16,000 days of production. A lot of oil - almost 44
years of production at current rates. At the rates the
developing world would like - perhaps a 20 year supply.
But if you ask "what happens to the children?" - not so
much - even with completely stable production.
And if you ask - "what about global warming" - the short
term sufficiency (given stable production) isn't sufficient
comfort either.
The technical job of getting the world an ample and
permanent source of energy is only moderately difficult. The
organizational job is somewhat harder - because in the
short and medium term - complex cooperation can be blocked by
interested parties - who, as ordinary people, can only be
expected to have a limited concern for the public interest.
Somebody owns those reserves, and the valuation of the
reserves in the ground is based on expectations.
A change in expectations that changed the value of those
reserves by $1/barrell would reduce the valuation that
specific people own by 1.2 trillion dollars - 400 times the
annual gross sales of The New York Times Co.
http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Dza0bfYkpYT.823632@.f28e622/14445
includes this:
"For the cost of a good movie - you might
get a good movie about large scale solar energy "taking a
piece" of the oil industry and do all the basic engineering
that the job would take. Might be good salesmanship, too."
There would be some dramatic possibilities in the stakes
involved. George Bush, an oil man from an oil state, would
have to resolve some conflicts himself - to American energy
independence possible. How difficult would it be for Bush to
make decisions that would reduce the price of oil? How
difficult would it be for the leaders of EU countries -
especially France and Germany. What if there were some other
military issues involved - some going back for years? Might
make for an interesting screen play.
I've been working on a "briefing" about permanently solving
the world's energy problems, and solving the global warming
problem, as well since Jun 27 12717-12718 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Dza0bfYkpYT.823632@.f28e622/14385
We know enough now to solve these
problems - the energy problem on a profitable basis -
t
rshow55
- 07:29am Jul 12, 2003 EST (#
12967 of 12968) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
We know enough now to solve these
problems - the energy problem on a profitable basis -
the carbon sequestration problem at a cost that ought to be
satisfactory.
12852-6 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.Dza0bfYkpYT.823632@.f28e622/14524
Technical solutions need to be crafted and
fit into workable social (including political) arrangements.
That will have to involve nation states besides the United
States -and more likely than not - will require those other
nation states to take a leading part. Though I wish it were
otherwise.
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