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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 09:27am Jul 11, 2003 EST (#
12939 of 12942) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Here are references connected to 1130-1 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gUjbbVp1oQK.529962@.f28e622/1437
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http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2084.htm
3871 http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md3000s/md3869.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4617.htm
5902 http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5900.htm
is quoted in
1130 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gUjbbVp1oQK.529962@.f28e622/1437
cites these references
rshowalter - 10:31am Jun 23, 2001 EST (#5878 http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5872.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5879.htm
MD3871 almarst-2001 5/14/01 10:32pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md3000s/md3869.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md3000s/md3872.htm
" It is interesting you decided to dig back
into the events of WWII. I never intended to go that far,
but if you will, here what I believe.
" The WWII was all about one thing - the
energy resources - the coal and oil. Remember, that was an
age of the heavy industry and electricity - the source and
the key to the prosperity of a nation.
rshowalter - 07:21pm Jun 23, 2001 EST (#5903 of 5906) http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5897.htm
http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5904.htm
MD4524 rshowalter 6/5/01 9:08pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4522.htm
MD4611 rshowalter 6/8/01 1:58pm MD4612 rshowalter 6/8/01
1:59pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4610.htm
" In some other areas -- solar energy and
global warming control, for instance - we face large scale
but simple problems. With loose tolerances, and many
different ways to proceed on many of the technical details
involved.
" The estimate of all the conventional oil
that there ever was or ever will be is less than the amount
of sunlight that hits the earth in one day. http://www.oilcrisis.com/debate/oilcalcs.htm
Exactly the kind of "wing it" approach Rumsfeld just
proposed for MD might actually work for solar energy -- we
need to find ways to use very extensive areas available on
earth -- and the equatorial oceans look like a good place.
For "space available" we might SOLVE essential military and
economic problems for the whole world -- MD4613 rshowalter
6/8/01 2:13pm MD4614 rshowalter 6/8/01 2:14pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4610.htm
" Actually doable. By engineers and
institutions that have been struggling with missile defense,
and failing.
" And more important, just in military
terms, than a limited missile defense could ever be.
This isn't just something the US could do --
Russia, or the EU, or Japan or even Australia, could
probably do it, too.
Other possibilities? Sure. The point is,
this looks doable, and could remove some essential reasons
for war, and make the world more hopeful and prosperous,
too.
Lchic 12189 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.gUjbbVp1oQK.529962@.f28e622/13826
Browser : Economies of scale energy
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Economies+of+scale+energy&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
NON-DEPLETABLE ENERGY SOURCES -- Energy which is not
obtained from depletable energy sources.
http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/glossary/n.html
Mexico - Renewable energy needs 20year PLAN
Renewable energy is competing with other
sources that have already been wildly subsidized by
government. Subsidies for conventional energy sources over
the past five decades in decreasing order are: $272 billion
for oil, $73 billion for natural gas, $68 billion for coal,
$63 billion for hydro, $61 billion for nuclear. Now compare
these huge amounts with $27 billion total for all wind,
geothermal and solar technologies combined. Looking at these
figures, its not surprising we have little renewable energy
(except hydro, which was strongly subsidize
rshow55
- 09:29am Jul 11, 2003 EST (#
12940 of 12942) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Lchic's reference continues:
Now compare these huge amounts with $27
billion total for all wind, geothermal and solar
technologies combined. Looking at these figures, its not
surprising we have little renewable energy (except hydro,
which was strongly subsidized). http://www.abqjournal.com/opinion/guest_columns/guest06-06-02.htm
It seems PLANNING and COOPERATION are necessary to get
ENERGY to people at LOWEST COST
Some of that work is simple - if problems are taking in
order. When that's done - the idea of an optimal
solution - as stable as the railroad solution of a steel wheel
on a steel rail - looks possible - and very cheap compared to
alternatives.
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