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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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fredmoore
- 01:54pm Jul 10, 2003 EST (#
12929 of 12931)
"" Keneally said it cost as much to house an asylum seeker
on Christmas Island or Nauru under the Government's "Pacific
Solution" as it would to put them through a medical degree at
Sydney University "with beer money on the side". ""
Keneally is all wrong. Only ONE terror transplant cell
would need to slip through the vet-net and it would costya
packet, costya carr, costya life. That's a tad more than
Aussies' should be asked to pay.
An asylum system which discourages hordes of unvetted
boat-people is, on the above analysis a very cost effective
instrument in the long term. Further, it encourages asylum
seekers to apply through proper chanels to enter the country
legitimately and to within the funded capacity of that country
to receive them.
rshow55
- 05:20pm Jul 10, 2003 EST (#
12930 of 12931) Can we do a better job of finding
truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have
done and worked for on this thread.
Blair Aides Don't Expect to Find Iraqi Weapons, Reports
Say By WARREN HOGE http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/10/international/worldspecial/10CND-WEAP.html?hp
LONDON, July 10 — Senior officials in Prime
Minister Tony Blair's government say they no longer believe
weapons of mass destruction will be uncovered in Iraq,
British news organizations reported today.
Alistaire Cooke Monday, 30 June, 2003, 10:17 GMT 11:17 UK
Were we misled into war? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/letter_from_america/3031728.stm
By Wednesday morning however I woke to the
frank admission that what I'd been doing was dreaming up as
many odd stories as possible so as to shirk, to evade,
avoid, to shun the one looming question already a thunderous
sound in Britain, but here only just rising to a general
protest.
And it's a question that must be answered.
It is this: were we misled into war, by whom and for what
motives?
On the eve of the invasion of Iraq more than
half the American population thought that it was a terrible
but necessary act and that what the administration was
saying was, better a short war - we hope short - now than a
long war very likely involving nuclear and chemical weapons
next year or the year after.
Most moderate supporters of an invasion, in
Britain and in this country, in the United Nations and out
of it, complained that the very large body of opinion
against any war never offered an alternative, except to give
up on Saddam or to trust in indefinite inspection from the
team of more than 200 members - the United Nations
inspectors - who'd been inspecting continuously from 1991
till 98.
The pressing reason for going to war was the
dinningly repeated reports, before the Security Council of
the United Nations, given by the president to the Congress,
by Secretary of Defence Rumsfeld in his press conferences
and by Secretary of State Colin Powell wherever he travelled
and begged for allies.
The reason was that Saddam Hussein, having
flouted for 12 years the Security Council's orders and the
truce treaty that he'd signed, was now a clear and present
danger to the security of not only his region, most of all
to Israel, but to the security of the United States itself -
because he was hiding and refusing to destroy weapons of
mass destruction and the makings of biochemical weapons that
had rained agonised deaths on thousands of Iranians and on
his own subjects.
That after 12 years of begging him to come
clean, 12 years of time to build up a nuclear capability and
enlarge his chemical resources, the time had come to say, no
more.
We now have to ask how much substance there was in that
argument - how much intention - how much muddle. And ask and
why and how it was impossible that the situation with Iraq to
have been resolved - many years ago.
Standard Operating Procedure By PAUL KRUGMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/03/opinion/03KRUG.html
The mystery of Iraq's missing weapons of
mass destruction has become a lot less mysterious. . . . .
But the important point is that this isn't
about Saddam: it's about us. The public was told that Saddam
posed an imminent threat. If that claim was fraudulent, the
selling of the war is arguably the worst scandal in American
political history — worse than Watergate, worse than
Iran-contra. Indeed, the idea that we were deceived into war
makes many commentators so uncomfortable that they refuse to
admit the possibility.
But here's the thought that should make
those commentators really uncomfortable. Suppose that this
administration did con us into war. And suppose that it is
not held accountable for its deceptions, so Mr. Bush can
fight what Mr. Hastings calls a "khaki election" next year.
In that case, our political system has become utterly, and
perhaps irrevocably, corrupted.
Perhaps not quite i
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