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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 10:55am Jul 7, 2003 EST (# 12880 of 12889)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

We have to work to make the basics of our economies work better. The whole world is under economic pressure - and it is plain that no nation state now has all the answers it needs. Bush's essentially religious response that we should "just trust the market" is too simple. We have to do better. And that will take work and analysis.

Bush's Record on Jobs: Risking Unhappy Comparisons By DAVID LEONHARDT http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/03/business/03JOBS.html

For George W. Bush, the race has begun to escape comparisons to Herbert Hoover.

With more than two million jobs having disappeared since Mr. Bush took office in January 2001, he finds himself in danger of becoming the first president since Hoover to oversee a decline in the country's employment. Economists disagree on how much blame, if any, Mr. Bush deserves for the long slump, but even White House aides view the economy as one of the only big threats to his re-election campaign.

Now, a turning point could be approaching. The Labor Department will release its jobs report for June this morning, and some forecasters are predicting that it will mark the beginning of a rebound.

The turning point turned the wrong way.

Jobless Rate Rises to 6.4 Percent; Highest in More Than 9 Years By KENNETH N. GILPIN http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/03/business/03CND-ECON.html

and that matters - and matters politically

Democrats Blaming Poor Economy on Bush By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 4:24 p.m. ET http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Democrats-Unemployment.html

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democrats are trying to place the blame for high unemployment on President Bush, and they see economic woes as key to turning voters against him in next year's election.

"Within an hour of the Thursday morning announcement that July's unemployment numbers had increased to a nine-year high of 6.4 percent, Democrats began assailing President Bush's economic policies.

"``It's a shame that so many Americans still can't find jobs, and it's a shame that President Bush doesn't have a clue about how to make things better,'' said North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, a candidate for the White House. ``It's clear that the president's tax cuts for the wealthy are failing the rest of the country.''

"Sen. Bob Graham of Florida, another presidential hopeful, said the jobless rate is ``further evidence that Bushonomics has failed America.'' One of his rivals, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, said the numbers show ``America's working families are under siege -- by the Bush administration and by the worsening economy.''

"Although economists disagree whether the president deserves any blame for the unemployment numbers, his political rivals see it as the chink in Bush's armor. . . . . . .

rshow55 - 12:07pm Jul 7, 2003 EST (# 12881 of 12889)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Vietnam's Cyberdissident http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/07/opinion/07MON4.html

Vietnam's government should release all prisoners of conscience, including Dr. Pham Hong Son.

12859 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.xTwQbtE6nDz.0@.f28e622/14535

WORD FOR WORD: The C.I.A.'s Cover Has Been Blown? Just Make Up Something About U.F.O.'s By STEPHEN KINZER http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/weekinreview/06WORD.html

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/758 . . . 235,000 U.S. servicemen were exposed to nuclear weapons testing during military duty. The people who gave the orders knew there were risks, but wanted numbers. Now, the danger is that we don't clean up our messes - and our corruptions.

From the Onion - - and only so funny

. Bush Asks Congress for $30 Billion To Help Fight War On Criticism http://www.theonion.com/onion3925/bush_asks_congress.html

We can do better than that, and have to.

the Onion often justifies its trademark of "AMERICA'S FINEST NEWS SOURCE" and did so in its 15-24 January 2001 issue, which led with this:

Bush: Our Long National Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity is Finally Over

"Mere days from assuming the Presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."

Not such a "funny" prediction.

Bush's Record on Jobs: Risking Unhappy Comparisons By DAVID LEONHARDT http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/03/business/03JOBS.html

We have to do better. And that will take work and analysis. http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.xTwQbtE6nDz.0@.f28e622/14556 Lies paralyze. We can't afford that.

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